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Message: [QUOTE="Guest, post: 5029482"] seems like tails we lose heads you win. If we give short answers we're impatient and long answers we're showing off our PhDs. that's because you ask very basic questions that would be better answered by reading a basic tutorial. For ****'s sake you failed to recognise a simple array access in this very thread! I don't mock people for mispellings and typos (there's a good reason for that). But to answer question you have to understand it. And you mess up terminology, ask questions you didn't mean to ask (see this thread) and generally play fast and loose with the laws of english language and basic logic. programmer is disiplined thought. you appear to unable to think or to organise yourself. what language is *that* in. you are shown far too much patience at one time I had a list of responses for you. Number one was "work out what you are trying to do". you nearly always fail on that one. So why are youposting here? For fun? <snip> [/QUOTE]