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Message: [QUOTE="Lothar Scholz, post: 4437636"] Hello David, DR> You know. you are the biggest troll I have ever seen DR> on the mailing list. Really, stop. I'm not kidding. It DR> has all you need. Its free as well, no strings Maybe it has what you need to build some sample applications, but as you write on your own a few important advanced widgets (and features) are missing. DR> attached. I don't know what the hell your problem is, DR> but stop. Below is my sample app I constructed in 15 DR> minutes after learning the interface. it is simple to DR> create than others. It is very flexible as well. text DR> looks great widgets work great, and it looks the same DR> way on windows. I tried it, works fine. THanks now DR> stfu lothar_troll. Okay 4 things that are quite bad when you try WS Builder. - Tab Focus Movement in Widgets do not work - Moving the selected item in the tree/list widgets outside the window with the cursor keys do not scroll the window. - The typical far eastern style with "File (F)" menus looks ugly in western countries. - Key Handling in Menus does not working. Because i think WS Builder might be the biggest software build with this toolkit (The website has not one reference to a real world application) it can be seen as a reference. I know this are minor things but there is an old rule in the industry: The first 90% of a program takes 10% of the time and the last 10% takes 90% of the time. And by the way, a Windows App look different then your Linux App. DR> You didn't even research why WideStudio was created. Where can i find this ? Maybe you can tell me here why it was created ? And does history really matter when someone picks it up to write a ruby application ? I doubt. People pick up tools that help them to do there tasks, not to increase the amout of work they already must do. DR> Send patches (Repeated 5 times) Nice, this shows that you now that a lot of things must be done. I don't doubt that with a lot of energy you can turn this into a really good toolkit. But you can say this to any other toolkit as well. So where is your point why WSStudio is so much better ? Can you point out something else then the license ? Maybe you can give me some more information why this thing should be better for embedded systems ? Is there a version working on the Linux framebuffer or a version for WinCE or handheld's ? DR> Send patches I don't need to send you, because here i must only look at the website to see that they are available and only the delivered HTML files are wrongly packed as noted before by James Britt. Seems that you never read my posting exactly. DR> You are trolling. Stop Sometimes you just should look why things are going that way. What has this to do with trolling ? Can you please tell me why the project died in 2002 and why nobody knows about this project if it is so good. DR> umm works fine for large guis. Which one ? A GUI Builder that relies on hierarchical structure of widgets and doesn't allow you to move items around in this hierarchy in an easy way (I speak of the Inspector Tree widget here), that don't have tools (grid lines/alignment etc.) helping you to do better layout ? I must not look at it very long to see that i wouldn't use it with pleasure to do the work. Okay it's up to you. It's your time that you have to spend on it. I should learn to not respond to postings like yours or the one who wants to build a rubycc. They all show the same problem: a lot of people can't estimate the time a programming task takes. And so a lot of energy is wasted that could be used much better in other projects. In the rubycc case i said the persons should work together with matz on the ruby core, i your case i would suggest to help improve FOX, GTK or the new drawing engine in TK. [/QUOTE]

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