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Message: [QUOTE="Rando Christensen, post: 4438225"] You're probably right; but then again, there aren't ANY toolkits that do any better than that for cross-platform with OSX. wxwidgets technically works on OSX, but it's kind of a pain. I got it to compile once, but then I couldn't get python's wxPython to work with it and gave up. (I was trying to get the bittorrent wxPython stuff working.) Any others that exist (Including the local ruby favorite fox) only work under X11 anyway. (I believe QT is actually an exception to this, and they now provide a fully native OSX Framework. Are there ruby bindings for QT?) [/QUOTE]