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Message: [QUOTE="Lothar Scholz, post: 4438234"] Hello Rando, RC> I'm quite familiar with apple's HIG and the differences between it and RC> the way applications look and feel in Linux and Windows. However, I RC> think you're a bit off in calling it impossible. It would require a RC> toolkit that made you know and account for the quirks of different RC> operating systems, but it's far from impossible. Right it would be possible to support this at least on a specialiased application level (in a huge program the GUI Toolkit is only a very minor part of the program) but very hard to do so in general. And its not a write once schema which is what most programmers expect today. RC> However, speaking on a more practical level, A lot of people would just RC> be happy with being able to write code that looks decent and doesn't RC> require too much work to set up on any individual target platform. RC> It's possible. Hell, hop on a mac and download the neat Gimp package RC> that exists. Yes, it's GTK, and yes, it even requires X11 to be RC> installed. However, it comes in an OSX .app bundle, comes pre-packaged RC> with it's own copy of gtk+ in there with it's own theme, and even knows RC> how to launch X11 on it's own when it launches. It's nowhere close to RC> fully native, but it's good enough not to scare people away. But this is not a task for the toolkit. This is up to you as an individuell developer. Everybody can create an .app bundle that works good and installs easily even with FOX. You just gave me a task for the next week. I will look at the setup code of GIMP. RC> It'd be a bit of work to write a toolkit that could create something RC> like that, either through using native widgets or whatever, but it is RC> possible, and it's something I wish we'd see come up. Yes. I just spend 50% of my time last week to examine how much work needs to be done to port my Arachno products to Aqua/Carbon. I already have an abstraction layer above FOX but i found it very hard (about 6 month full time) to do this and it would require a lot of refactoring of existing code. It may not be so difficult if a person starts a project and designs the application from scratch to fit the goal of runnable on Unix/Windows/Apple. And as i said before, at the moment i don't think that a general purpose toolkit is the way to go, at least for larger applications. [/QUOTE]

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