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Message: [QUOTE="Lothar Scholz, post: 4438241"] Hello Jan, JS> FireFox and Thunderbird are pretty damn good. There are differences JS> ofcourse to make it more mac-like. Shortcuts using symbols, based on JS> command instead of control or alt. Changed menu structure (preferences JS> and quit under the application menu, instead of file and edit). The JS> usage of sheets instead of modal dialogs. Things could be better, but JS> none would require a massive rewrite, or needs the use of another JS> toolkit. So, yes, you need different versions for mac/linux/win to make JS> a decent gui app, but the differences aren't that major that you need to JS> rewrite your entire application. Yes they are pretty good. But this is exactly what i said. For example you can find in the "mozilla/widget/src/mac" folder 85 files with 961 KB source code which is most of the mac GUI abstraction layer. I know that some other programs (Komodo for example) uses the Mozilla framework, but it is still developed around the needs of the Browser application. If they need new features they will change the toolkit and they will do it at the same time for each toolkit. This is different from the idea of porting from one system to another with the help of a general purpose toolkit and without #ifdef clauses. JS> Allot of Java apps also integrate nicely. (for example Jedit). You need JS> changes, you need to follow the mac hig to give a nice experience, but JS> you don't need to rewrite it in either cocoa/carbon. It is easier to get JS> things right if you use cocoa instead of something else, but it is not JS> absolutely necessary for a nicely integrated mac application. Sure you can do quite well. But thats not the point i'm talking about. I talking about apps here that will have a chance to get accept at [URL]http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/72204/wo/YzEQh8W4R5XN2Y5vpb71EuWEVpK/0.0.9.1.0.6.13.0.4.1.3.0.7.0.1.1.0[/URL] This is not easy because recommended software must confirm to the interface guideslines (at least a few years ago they where very strict at this point) - and of course you must pay a lot of money. [/QUOTE]

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