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[QUOTE="Mark Hubbart, post: 4438244"]
I think I speak for more users than myself when I say that FireFox and
Thunderbird are *not* Mac apps. Yes, they do pretty good, but they need
to go a a bit further before they  will be able to compete with the
other mac web browsers, IMHO.  My main gripe is that, even after the
major changes they made to make it more mac-like, they still behave
strangely. There a only a couple places left where there are major
deviations from the usual mac app, but there are many items that behave
almost, but not quite, like what you would expect. I think that this
is especially a problem for more advanced users, since they are more
likely to notice the differences.

Apple has been working to take java apps more and more towards being
first class applications on macosx. With the ObjC <=> Java bridge, you
can use all the cocoa classes in java apps, making porting a java
program to cocoa rather simple. Also, they did a fairly good job of
making the java Aqua theme fit in well.

cheers,
Mark
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