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Message: [QUOTE="Nicholas Van Weerdenburg, post: 4438246"] I've sortof come to view my OS X box as a Mac/Java/X11/Linux(Fink ports) box, so I'm fine with GUI variations. I'm afraid I hardly notice them anymore. I use the following on both Windows and OS X: Freeride Ruby Editor (X11) Mozilla Thunderbird Mozilla Firefox JEdit (Java) IntelliJ IDEA (Java) And I have no complaints. On the other hand, OpenOffice via X11 on OS X is dissapointing, so I can see mainstream apps needing the tighter Mac compliance. Nick [/QUOTE]