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Message: [QUOTE="Sean O'Dell, post: 4438386"] I think the problem is you're reading too much into Lothar's words. I suspect English isn't his native language from the way he writes (possibly German), and quite often minor differences in what a native English speaker and a non-native speaker would write creates huge misunderstandings in terms of content as well as tone. For example, I know many of my German friends whose English isn't 100% will respond quite often with the English phrase "that's not interesting to me." I suspect it has an equivalent colloquial in German that is perfectly harmless, but to my English ears, it's wholly distasteful. But also, in general, participating online can lead to misunderstandings even between native speakers, and it helps to simply take everything with a grain of salt, knowing you might not be gauging their intention as accurately as you think. People says things meaning no harm, but without the benefit of in-person voice inflection, you can never know *precisely* how they meant it. Try and not assume venom in Lothar's words, and allow yourself to hear honest criticism of your work. From everything I've read, he's seems completely even-handed and is being more than fair with you. But if you can't comes to terms with Lothar, take it to private email with him at least, would you? Leave this ML for discussions about Ruby. Sean O'Dell [/QUOTE]