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Message: [QUOTE="JSH, post: 3619240"] You ignore all evidence. Like sci.math'ers I'm sure, though I don't remember, didn't like my definition of mathematical proof. Yet, as I've noted so many times, it is up there in Google when you search on "definition of mathematical proof" at #2, only behind the Wikipedia, which is another surging entity, which has been ripped on by the establishment. You're kind of like some old encyclopedia people claiming the Wikipedia is crap. New tech escapes you. So it doesn't matter what I do for you and people like you. You are trapped in your own belief which reminds me of the books of Narnia. After Aslan has been resurrected, and is taking out his enemies there are these certain people who believe they are in the basement of a building when the building is gone, and a child wonders to Aslan if they will ever know the truth. And Aslan says no. They are trapped in their own minds, forever. The truth is permanently lost to them. James Harris [/QUOTE]