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Message: [QUOTE="A. Sinan Unur, post: 4799536"] [email]poopdeville@gmail.com[/email] wrote in I am not sure what you are talking about. I regard the use of 'paradigm' and 'mathematical abstraction of computation' as huge red flags [1] that indicate that somehow, you are not focusing on the problem at hand. I lived with a couple of math Ph.D.'s for a while and occasionally helped them with their C programs. Neither ever started talking about Turing machines or paradigms when they did not understand something, and neither had any problems with the concept of a pointer. When they had specific issues, we debugged programs by actually looking at the code, and working with it, rather than philosophizing. It is important to realize that you cannot become a good programmer just by thinking in the abstract. You need to practice it. You might not like this response, but please read: perldoc perlreftut especially the section "The Solution". Do some exercises, ask some practical questions when you don't understand something. I am not saying this because I cannot discuss Turing machines with you, but rather because this is the only way you'll learn to program. Sinan [1] I am glad you did not mention "thinking outside of the box". [/QUOTE]