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Message: [QUOTE="JSH, post: 3614988"] Yeah Erik Max Francis put me on years ago. We did argue a bit way back. I think at one point he intimated that I should commit suicide. Maybe he thinks putting me on that page might convince me. Nope. He seems to have lost interest in updating the page. Of course he is in San Jose and I live not far away. I have offered to chat. Hey, you people do realize that I'm in the heart of the Java world? I get invites to all kinds of nice things but just don't go. Now you want to go along with someone calling me a crackpot? Maybe all Java programmers are crazy? Eh? You too? Yeah. You're a true believer. Do you even know Erik Max Francis? Ever been in San Jose? What makes you think his webpage has any more validity then any other webpage out there? I know, you're a true believer, that's what. James Harris [/QUOTE]