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Message: [QUOTE="JSH, post: 3617096"] I never said that no one else experimented before Newton. I said that at Cambridge doctors of philosophy, talked before Newton. He revolutionized the university. That point was lost as "Rotwang" instead interpreted my statements as saying no one experimented before Sir Isaac Newton, despite my mention of Galileo who died before Newton was born. For those who wonder, yes, yet another sci.math'er but at least you can get some sense of how arguments often went on that newsgroup! People there seize on something that suits what they wish to believe, and then they go on and on. James Harris [/QUOTE]