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Message: [QUOTE="Kenny, post: 4980473"] Working out pretty well, too, for what classes do best: divide up huge wodges of code and even maybe make reuse a little easier. qooxdoo Just Works. If I work for two hours I produce two hours of application. It has been a while since I experienced that playing with dojo and yui. I gotta confess, a build of my qooxdoo app is now bigger than that! I am talking about click vs shift-click vs control-click -- the simplest thing in the world and qooxdoo is the first I have seen that got it right. I been at this a while, I know quality when I see it. Little things like the build process, the runtime errors (amazing detail), the slick layout (nothing else comes close -- well, I did not try them all). And I like to shoot from the hip. :) I will come back and confess if it does not work out for us. cheers, ken [/QUOTE]