Then why does it say two-hundred-and-something ratings rather than
zero?
[false accusations deleted]
None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
Outrageous accusations! Please retract them or furnish proof. Why
don't you think we both come by our star ratings honestly? Is it
really so unbelievable that the general public might dislike a bully
who posts lots of flamebait and browbeating, and that that same public
might take a shine to that bully's victims?
I personally find that easier to believe than your paranoid conspiracy
theories.
And I think you'll find that many other people do, too.
I think Wesley's right: you just don't want to face the fact that your
behavior has met with significant disapprobation from the masses.
Which masses? [insult deleted]
No, you're the crazy one. All the evidence points to paranoia with
complex delusional features.
None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
It's all your doing, obviously.
That is only "obvious" to a paranoid lunatic, of course.
What part of "I don't use Google Groups" didn't you understand?
Oh, I understood it perfectly. I just didn't believe it, and indeed I
quickly found proof that it was not true.
I notice you did not quote my proof. I guess you found it
embarrassing.
I used GG some months ago
Well, there you go, then.
Now you admit the truth. You have, indeed, used Google Groups.
[excessive amounts of unreplied-to quoted material deleted]
Nonsense. What utter hogwash. Do you really believe that only one
person on Earth can hold that opinion? Anyone who reads this thread
can make the same observations about Arne's behavior and about secret
decoder ring's, and draw the same conclusion. In fact, I'd say that
only Arne and his friends, being biased in Arne's favor, are going to
argue otherwise.
What's obvious is that you are [paranoid ravings deleted]
No. None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me
are at all true.
Seek help. You probably have adult-onset schizophrenia. With the
proper medications, you can probably return to living a fully normal
life. However, if you don't, your paranoid delusions and increasingly
erratic and violent behavior will destroy your career and your
relationships, probably before your next birthday, and you'll find
yourself living on the streets yelling at lampposts and accusing every
passing motorist of being a sock-puppet of your imaginary arch-
nemesis.
you are the good guy, and Arne, Lew, and I, etc, are villains ganging up
on you
Perhaps there is hope for you yet.
Do take note: the people you accuse of being me have all made their
debuts to this newsgroup, as near as I can tell, by posting on-topic
posts, many of them helping others rather than requesting help. I
myself made my debut a couple of years ago doing likewise.
In the meantime, who has shown a tendency to start new relationships
off on the wrong foot by lashing out in hostility at just about anyone
who happens to be new?
Yeah, that's right. You, and, especially, Lew and Arne and a couple of
others.
Several people have called these people on their behavior. I find one
especially interesting: Roedy has called Lew on this behavior several
times and I don't notice Lew, or you, or Arne, or anyone else accusing
him of being a sock-puppet. I wonder why?
If you do believe he's a sock-puppet, it's strangely inconsistent and
incoherent of you not to make such accusations. On the other hand, if
you do not, it puts the lie to your thesis that anyone who considers
any of you to be the villains is just me in disguise, now, doesn't it?
Face it. I am quite definitely not the only person that doesn't like
your behavior.
If your whole ego structure will implode if you accept the truth,
instead of clinging to your paranoid fantasy that you're really great
guys and everyone sees it except one single person, who is some sort
of nefarious and quasi-demonic figure with uncanny powers over
computers, well I say let your ego structure implode. You'll probably
be better off for it.
Besides, you have a genuinely nasty quasi-demonic enemy with uncanny
powers in NewsMaestro. Perhaps you should turn your abundant energies
and negative attitude upon that asshole and spare newbies and the
people you accuse of being me (including the actual me) your misplaced
wrath? I have, or at least had, something constructive to contribute
before you began your negative-sum harassment campaign. So did several
other people that you successfully hounded out of cljp, and so I
suspect do the several people you're currently hounding.
If they really are rotten apples for whatever reason, they will prove
it at some point and they can be dealt with at that time. But
viciously attacking newbies of unproven worth just because you think
they might be me? Ludicrously bad manners!
In which way are you paranoid then?
Why, in no way at all, of course. Unlike you, I am quite rational. I
don't even bear a grudge against you or anything. I hate the sickness,
not the sick man; you're really just another of its victims. If I knew
how, I'd figure out how to cure schizophrenia in all its forms and I
wouldn't even patent the cure, even though that means I'd soon have to
contend with competitors selling cheap knock-offs. Better that it
become widely available to anyone in need, whatever their financial
means, than that I personally get rich, I think.
Unfortunately, sometimes your behavior is troublesome, and
occasionally it even poses something of a threat, and then I am
forced, reluctantly, to intervene in my own defense or in the defense
of another.
But I bear no ill will to anyone here. Indeed, quite the reverse.
Unfortunately I have only limited means to try to make changes here
for the better. Posting useful stuff about Java was what I did before,
but you and your bunch started attacking me in a knee-jerk fashion and
it became a bad idea -- by trying to help in any thread, all I could
do at that point was ensure it turned into a flamefest utterly useless
to the OP. Since then I've been watching you slowly destroy this
newsgroup, driving away many of the brighter-seeming and potentially
helpful newbies (as well as the droves of AOLers asking to "join", at
least *some* of whom might have otherwise eventually become productive
and useful members of the community if given a chance) and
periodically giving it a thorough napalming whenever someone rubbed
you the wrong way.
So staying away is useless too, especially since I'm frequently
attacked "in absentia" and have to pop up at least briefly to defend
myself.
Hence, it seems that the best thing I can do for cljp at this time is
to try to convince you of the error of your ways.
Alternatively, we could make a deal: I don't post here, using any of
my google accounts (though lately I only use this one account to post
here), and you (this means all of you, not just Lars) stop randomly
attacking people, accusing them of being me; try to be more polite to
newbies; and do not verbally abuse me by any of the names on those
google accounts. Also, you don't attack Paul. He made his wishes clear
a few weeks ago, and he appears to be uninterested in your silly
quarreling, to judge by his disappearing again after making only the
one post.
Note 1: If you leave any parting flames for me, I will make parting
rebuttals containing the usual "none of the nasty things that you have
said or implied about me are at all true" before vanishing.
Note 2: I've done some examining of recent threads (partly by
searching the newsgroup for mentions of "Twisted" and "Paul", then
sorting by date) and have a short list of newbies you've recently been
abusing that you ought to let be:
* Wesley MacIntosh. He promised to bow out of this and other off-topic
threads when he saw how nasty was the stuff he'd just stepped in, and
he appears to have kept his word. I see an on-topic post or two of his
since that date, and no off-topic ones. I think you've misjudged him
terribly (even though he flamed me mildly twice), and perhaps you even
owe him an apology. But I'll settle for you leaving him be. If you
dislike him intensely, killfile him. Indeed, judicious use of
killfiles by you and Arne, and the killfiling of people *before*
rather than *after* insulting them by Lew, would have prevented much
of this unpleasantness in the first place.
* secret decoder ring. Whatever you think about his opinion on how
NB's updating should be implemented, and regardless of the snarkiness
of the last few posts he wrote in reply to Arne, he seems to have been
treated more poorly than he deserved. He started out by posting on-
topic stuff (well, maybe marginally in the case of this NetBeans
thread), and what he got in return was trolled by you people. Baited
into getting into ridiculous and long arguments, then accused of being
me. Indeed, the more general pattern seems to be: you see newbie, you
troll newbie, if newbie takes the bait, you accuse newbie of being me.
What a sad, sad way to use a newsgroup!
* Harold Yarmouth. More or less the same story as secret decoder ring,
though he was more commonly asking than answering questions.
It may actually be too late in the case of the latter two: secret
decoder ring hasn't posted in days, and Yarmouth in weeks. I think
maybe you can chalk up two more newbies you've succeeded in driving
away from cljp. I hope you're proud!
"Recent newcomers", my foot. It's a conspiracy
As I said previously, with the right medication you will probably no
longer believe this nonsense and you'll be able to live a full and
productive life.
How would you know anything about how normal persons react?
I am one. I know plenty of others. Furthermore, I read quite a bit.
Your shoddy Google rating is a consequence of your own behavior.
Think about it. And consider carefully taking at least one of the
three actions mentioned above; to summarize:
1. Seek help.
2. Cogitate for a while and understand the error of your ways. Make a
New Year's resolution to be a model netizen from 2009 on.
3. Be polite to newbies, stop accusing random people of being me, and
stop randomly posting public flamebait and flames aimed at me and at
Paul and at anyone else for that matter; if you wish, I will stop
posting to cljp if you agree to do the above and only after I've
rebutted any parting insults aimed at me.
The above goes for Lew, Arne, and anyone else showing the same kinds
of behavioral problems as you. I will not stop posting to cljp unless
the behaviors that you are to stop in item 3 are stopped by all who
engage in them; in particular, I reserve the right to pop up briefly
to rebut any future insults aimed at me, go "tsk, tsk, tsk", or
similarly, in posts no less polite than this one, in response to any
infraction.
P.S. The above is eminently reasonable as judged by any normal, non-
paranoid human being, and this entire post has been worded fairly
politely.
Therefore, if you reject it (explicitly, or implicitly by attacking me
or continuing to engage in other bad behavior around here) people may
well draw the obvious conclusions about you from your actions.
(That last is not a threat; it is a warning and it is offered in good
faith.)
