Noob, what to download where?

[slix]

I want to start programming in java, what do i need to download and
where?
what environment do you recommend? netbeans or eclipse?

 

[Donkey Hot]

I want to start programming in java, what do i need to download and
where?
what environment do you recommend? netbeans or eclipse?

I recommend NetBeans, but the next guy some another IDE. You better to play
with them both (if not *all*) and find out which makes you boat float.

 

[slix]

I recommend NetBeans, but the next guy some another IDE. You better to play
with them both (if not *all*) and find out which makes you boat float.

ty and how do i download the library and the acual java? should i
downlod java se at sunshomepage?

 

[Donkey Hot]

ty and how do i download the library and the acual java? should i
downlod java se at sunshomepage?

http://download.netbeans.org/netbeans/6.1/final/

There are links for separate JDK downloads or bundles with the IDE.

Downloading is not that hard.

 

[Mark Space]

I want to start programming in java, what do i need to download and
where?
what environment do you recommend? netbeans or eclipse?

You're a noob?

Oh, well you definitely want to start here:

 

[David Segall]

I want to start programming in java, what do i need to download and
where?

Go to <http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/netbeans.html> and click
the "Download" button. After you have completed the installation do
the ten minute tutorial at

what environment do you recommend? netbeans or eclipse?

I recommended NetBeans to you because Sun have a package that makes
starting with Java easy. I don't think there is anything comparable
for someone with your experience using Eclipse. Once you are more
familiar with Java and an IDE you may wish to reconsider your choice.
The "best" IDE depends on which features you consider most important
and, often, who has the most recent release.

 

[David Segall]

You're a noob?

Oh, well you definitely want to start here:

Please refrain from posting a URL without a summary of the contents.
It was bad enough waiting for an irrelevant web page to download but
now I am expected to watch probably irrelevant videos. I say "probably
irrelevant" because I stopped watching an image of someone dancing
after a few seconds and after I noted that I could have wasted three
minutes. I would not normally follow someone's link to YouTube but I
have found most of your posts informative.

 

[Mark Space]

Please refrain from posting a URL without a summary of the contents.
It was bad enough waiting for an irrelevant web page to download but
now I am expected to watch probably irrelevant videos. I say "probably
irrelevant" because I stopped watching an image of someone dancing
after a few seconds and after I noted that I could have wasted three
minutes. I would not normally follow someone's link to YouTube but I
have found most of your posts informative.

Ah, well, prepare to be informed further. This Wikipedia article
explains the link I posted:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickroll

And yes, that's a serious link. At least, it's not another video. ;-)

 

[Lasse Reichstein Nielsen]

You're a noob?

Oh, well you definitely want to start here:

While not an exact match, I find this to be a fitting response:
http://xkcd.com/169/

/L

 

[Dharmax]

I want to start programming in java, what do i need to download and
where?
what environment do you recommend? netbeans or eclipse?

The things for getting started in java are quiet simple.
First download jdk 6 from sun microsysyem's site and install it.

I recommend that if you are new to java then don't go for netbeans or
ecalipes, you can go for editplus which is a simple java editor. The
reason behind it, is that using this will help you in memorizing java
syntaxes and structures. If you will use netbeans you would not be
able to crate programmes without netbeans.That's what i suggest now
it's upto you to go on your desired way.

 

[Mark Space]

While not an exact match, I find this to be a fitting response:
http://xkcd.com/169/

/L

I an SO not clicking on that link.

 

[Daniel Pitts]

I an SO not clicking on that link.

Nothing wrong with xkcd, its a popular and funny web-comic.

 

[Andy]

I want to start programming in java, what do i need to download and
where?
what environment do you recommend? netbeans or eclipse?

I personally use netbeans. Eclipse is also good.

I started off in jcreator. It's very simple to use and understand, but
is obviously not as featured as the other two mentioned.

 

[Martin Gregorie]

The things for getting started in java are quiet simple.
First download jdk 6 from sun microsysyem's site and install it.

....and don't forget the documentation set. Grab that, install it (warning:
its bigger than the JDK) and learn to use it. That will serve you well.

I recommend that if you are new to java then don't go for netbeans or
ecalipes, you can go for editplus which is a simple java editor. The
reason behind it, is that using this will help you in memorizing java
syntaxes and structures. If you will use netbeans you would not be able
to crate programmes without netbeans.That's what i suggest now it's upto
you to go on your desired way.

Total agreement, though personally, I don't think a specialised Java
source editor is necessary. I learnt using PFE for Windows and (in
parallel) my usual Linux editor. Now I just use the Linux editor.

The only tool you really need to add to that is ant. Ant does the
minimum work needed to compile of a set of classes, so its fast. It can
also build jar files, install the applications you write, etc, etc. Its
written in Java and so is pretty much independent of the OS.

 

[Donkey Hot]

The throw-em-in-the-pool-and-if-they-don't-drown-they-learn-to-swim
approach is one way. Another is to use NetBeans (or Eclipse, I
suppose) to help you learn. The auto-completion, syntax coloration,
instant access to Javadocs and tutorials are often quite useful to
newbies. Or even experienced developers.

Go ahead, OP - download NetBeans (or the other one) and use it. Don't
stay all the time in its loving arms - try to script an Ant build from
the command line, too. But don't be afraid to accept help from a good
IDE.

Ant is good. Netbeans project contains an ant compatile build.xml in the
project root, so it can be compiled with ant too, from command line.

 

[Roedy Green]

I want to start programming in java, what do i need to download and
where?
what environment do you recommend? netbeans or eclipse?

see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/gettingstarted.html

 

[Mark Space]

The throw-em-in-the-pool-and-if-they-don't-drown-they-learn-to-swim
approach is one way. Another is to use NetBeans (or Eclipse, I suppose)

For a first time beginner, I think making a couple of project entirely
by hand is a useful first lesson. You should know how javac and jar
work, and how the java command line options function.

However, as soon as one does that, the command line can be abandoned and
an IDE used instead. It's just useful to have a concept in your head
what the IDE is doing for you. It's a great aid in debugging problems
that crop up outside of an IDE for example.

Note the Javapassion.com webiste starts off this way in its introductory
Java lesson.

http://www.javapassion.com/javaintro/

 

[Mark Space]

While not an exact match, I find this to be a fitting response:
http://xkcd.com/169/

/L

OK, so I clicked. It was the weekend, he used the word "noob" in his
post title, and I was in a whimsical mood. Plus, his questions had
really been answered, he had the info he needed. Now people apparently
want to hack my arm off for a joke. A complete degeneration of this
news group into irrelevant links would surely be unwelcome, but I don't
see that there's no room for humor either.

And seriously, I thought everybody knew about Rickrolls. (And if you
didn't, then you did learn something! ) Any YouTube link (should) just
scream _caveat emptor_.