Quicktime framing video

[MS]

Hi,

I'm not an HTML professional, so not using css files, just doing a very
basic (and quick) page to show my brother's showreel.

The page looks good, but Firefox and IE's rendering of the page is
different. IE frame's the embedded quicktime movie with a white line at
the top and bottom, is there a way to stop this? I can't find an element
in Apple's docs that does this, but maybe you gurus can advise me.

These 2 screen caps of the page, Firefox first then IE, show what I mean
by the framing of the video in IE.

http://fileserver1.jpghosting.com/images/Firefox_Cap_03089faaad2f89be58ca33b5c85c5061.jpg

http://fileserver1.jpghosting.com/images/IE_Cap_e42701eac8ffd47d33361054e9a9588f.jpg

Many thanks,

MS

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

I'm not an HTML professional, so not using css files, just doing a
very basic (and quick) page to show my brother's showreel.

One does not have to be a professional to use CSS.

The page looks good, but Firefox and IE's rendering of the page is
different.

So what else is new?

And you will never get pixel-perfect precision across different
browsers. It doesn't really matter, either, as none of your visitors
will be using multiple browsers to view your page. Only us developers do
that.

IE frame's the embedded quicktime movie with a white line
at the top and bottom, is there a way to stop this? I can't find an
element in Apple's docs that does this, but maybe you gurus can
advise me.

Perhaps if you were to post the link to the page in question, someone
could advise what may be necessary. It's probably just a simple margin
or padding oversight.

 

[MS]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty emailed this:

One does not have to be a professional to use CSS.


So what else is new?

And you will never get pixel-perfect precision across different
browsers. It doesn't really matter, either, as none of your visitors
will be using multiple browsers to view your page. Only us developers do
that.


Perhaps if you were to post the link to the page in question, someone
could advise what may be necessary. It's probably just a simple margin
or padding oversight.

Thanks for your reply, and apologies I should have included the link.
About the css, it's not that only proffs can use them, just that I've not
used them ever and simply don't have the time the learn now - it's just a
quick'n'dirty page before his website gets professionally done.

Link is here: http://www.i-dig.info/dop/index.html

Thanks again.

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty [emailed^Wposted] this:

Perhaps if you were to post the link to the page in question,
someone could advise what may be necessary. It's probably just a
simple margin or padding oversight.

Thanks for your reply, and apologies I should have included the link.
About the css, it's not that only proffs can use them, just that I've
not used them ever and simply don't have the time the learn now -
it's just a quick'n'dirty page before his website gets professionally
done.

So then if it really is just a 'quick'n'dirty' page, why does the little
white border matter?

Link is here: http://www.i-dig.info/dop/index.html

By correcting one of the errors, I have made your page identical in IE6
and Firefox. I added the required '#' to your background color code:

<embed width="640" height="530" controller="true" autoplay="true"
src="http://www.i-dig.info/dop/showreel.mov"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF" border="0"
...........^

Different browsers compensate for errors in different ways. You may want
to look into the rest of the errors:

http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http://www.i-dig.info/dop/index.html

 

[MS]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty emailed this:

So then if it really is just a 'quick'n'dirty' page, why does the little
white border matter?

It doesn't to me, my brother complained about it so I said I'd fix it and
then couldn't work out how.

By correcting one of the errors, I have made your page identical in IE6
and Firefox. I added the required '#' to your background color code:

<embed width="640" height="530" controller="true" autoplay="true"
src="http://www.i-dig.info/dop/showreel.mov"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF" border="0"
..........^

Different browsers compensate for errors in different ways. You may want
to look into the rest of the errors:

http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http://www.i-dig.info/dop/index.html

Thanks for the help and the validator link, so many errors in so small a page!

Changing border=n to various values (0..5) does not seem to make any
difference, oh well.

Cheers.

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty emailed^WPOSTED this:

It doesn't to me, my brother complained about it so I said I'd fix it
and then couldn't work out how.

Thanks for the help and the validator link, so many errors in so small
a page!

If you want to try a tutorial on constructing error-free pages, have a
look at this one:
http://htmldog.com/

Changing border=n to various values (0..5) does not seem to make any
difference, oh well.

Looking at your link again, all I see now is the quicktime movie. There
appears to no longer be any HTML in the page. The visible source is just
binary code. Did you add the "#" sign to the bgcolor color code,
correcting that error, and try it? #FFFFFF ?

 

[MS]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty emailed this:

Picky, isn't he? <g>

YES (I resisted the urge to ask just who is doing who a favour).

If you want to try a tutorial on constructing error-free pages, have a
look at this one:
http://htmldog.com/

Okay, thanks.

Looking at your link again, all I see now is the quicktime movie. There
appears to no longer be any HTML in the page. The visible source is just
binary code. Did you add the "#" sign to the bgcolor color code,
correcting that error, and try it? #FFFFFF ?

Yes I added the '#', and using the validator fixed some errors.

The page looks fine to me in Firefox and in IE. I changed a few characters
too in order to check I wasn't viewing a cached version.

Will you take another look please?

Many thanks for all your help.

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty emailed [no, he posted] this:

Looking at your link again, all I see now is the quicktime movie. There
appears to no longer be any HTML in the page. The visible source is just
binary code.

Oops, the above was my error; I clicked the direct link to the .mov
file...

Yes I added the '#', and using the validator fixed some errors.

The page looks fine to me in Firefox and in IE. I changed a few characters
too in order to check I wasn't viewing a cached version.

Will you take another look please?

Firefox has the white border top and bottom now.

Try adding: style="margin:0; padding:0;"
to the <embed element.

and/or maybe to the <body> tag as well.

 

[MS]

Oops, the above was my error; I clicked the direct link to the .mov

file...

Pheww. You had me worried there.

Firefox has the white border top and bottom now.

Try adding: style="margin:0; padding:0;"
to the <embed element.

and/or maybe to the <body> tag as well.

No joy. Oh well. Many thanks again.

Regards, etc..

 

[dorayme]

Oops, the above was my error; I clicked the direct link to the .mov
file...

Pheww. You had me worried there.

Firefox has the white border top and bottom now.

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Why, quite, would you have: bgcolor="#FFFFFF" instead of
....#000000?

No joy. Oh well. Many thanks again.

With your bg as white in the embed, changing the dims for the
embed to height="528" helps to remove the white line. But
anyway...

Tell your brother I liked the unattached legs walking. I take a
dog for a walk regularly who has a very nice walking style, am
often struck by the legs and have been meaning to make a film of
it with just those 4, the body gone.

 

[MS]

With your bg as white in the embed, changing the dims for the

embed to height="528" helps to remove the white line. But
anyway...

Tell your brother I liked the unattached legs walking. I take a
dog for a walk regularly who has a very nice walking style, am
often struck by the legs and have been meaning to make a film of
it with just those 4, the body gone.

Thanks for the advise. I've now told him to 'live with it', actually I
like the white line and think it frames the video nicely.

I like the unattached legs too. You should do that with your dog, I've not
seen that done with an animal's body part before, many times in one shape
or form with a human, but not an animal - in a medium like film
originality is now hard to come by, go for it.

Regards,

MS