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Message: [QUOTE="Pascal J. Bourguignon, post: 3861869"] And the Lisa, and Amiga, and the Apollo, Xerox Alto, Lisp Machines, Xerox Star, Three Rivers PERQ workstations. No, they're much less productive. In reality this is wrong. Notably in the case of pictures you find in GUIs. Here you are explaining that GUI are good for people with poor vocabulary. There are even some people who think that watching pictures all day long (eg on TV) dumbs the watchers down. Well, it's not me who said it... Yes. But then you can says: disconnect when no work done in 15 minutes or at 18:00 or when downloading porn. Try to say such a thing by clicking on icons. And once you can say textual commands, you can easily put them in script, in programs. Try to do the same with GUI! And once you've found a system to do it with GUI (there exist some), compare the speed and expressiveness of the GUI and CLI scripting. CLI and text based interfaces can do the same. There are other text based browser. The web usability question is not relative to the text or CLI aspects, but on the support for things such as Flash or Javascript. Who talked of ASCII terminals? Did you even watch the URI I gave showing how lisp REPL may output both graphics and texts? This user doesn't want to write code, fix the red-eye in my photo, or whatever. I want the computer to do that for me, so I can go to the beach. No, it's the operating system that supports multi-tasking. Well after using GUIs for a few years, I came back to more textual user interfaces, because I lose less time with them. If you want feed back you can always order it. But I don't see what's disconcerting in having the computer execute the orders you give it... In any case, I don't spend my time watching clocks counting down. When I give a command that will take time to complete, I order the computer to do it in background and go on with the rest of my tasks. We've spent the last two days explaining you how you automate writting code with lisp macros. You still don't get it. It's more efficient if you let the computer generate the GUI code, from commands. Metafor Interactive Natural Language Programming [URL]http://www.lehigh.edu/~amsp/2005/03/metafor-natural-language-programming.html[/URL] [URL]http://web.media.mit.edu/%7Ehugo/demos/metafor-bartender-simple.mov[/URL] [URL]http://web.media.mit.edu/~hugo/publications/[/URL] [URL]http://web.media.mit.edu/~hugo/publications/papers/IUI2005-metafor.pdf[/URL] Notice how it's a text based user inteface! Good for them, they copied the feature from emacs. We're not always editing lisp code... [/QUOTE]

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