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Message: [QUOTE="Paul Lynch, post: 4526656"] iTMS/AppleStore/.Mac was written in WebObjects, right - and originally in the Objective C version. WebObjects converted to Java (not J2EE) years ago, although some users continue to run the ObjC version of WebObjects, because of philosophical objections to Java (nothing new there). I believe, but can't confirm, that Apple's internal WebObjects apps were converted to the Java version of WebObjects. There is no 'free' version of ObjC WebObjects; GNUstep is not WebObjects. There are some OSS implementations based on ObjC, with and without GNUstep, but nothing that is feature complete and compatible. The current version of WebObjects (Java) is 'free', as it comes with XCode, but is not Open Source. Paul [/QUOTE]