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Message: [QUOTE="Nicolai P. Zwar, post: 689298"] To not worry about the design for NS4 and just deliver plain markup for this browser is not an option; the site will have a largely presentational nature and a plain old black and white doc look won't do. (They wouldn't have hired me to do that anyway... they know their HTML). I agree with you that before everything, an HTML doc should make sense without stylesheets, but some pages will require special plug-ins, there will be password protected areas, a discussion forum (one that has to be usable with NS4, too), so while I again agree with you that I shouldn't worry about positioning everything _exactly_ on the screen, I cannot risk to have things positioned completely at random. Keep in mind the site will have a presentational nature. Thanks. Super. [/QUOTE]