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Message: [QUOTE="Phil Romero, post: 4644555"] Well, I think I'll try and inject some help into this mounting flame war. It's sometimes best to go to the source to figure this stuff out. In this case, since Sun doesn't release sdks for Macs, you'll need to do a little research (but not too much). Previously, to get a jdk compatible with 1.6 proper on mac os X 10.5, you'd have to do some hacking around. Here are some helpful links: Historical: [URL]http://blog.adsdevshop.com/2008/02/26/installing-the-jdk-16-on-mac-os-x/[/URL] Recent information: [URL]http://support.apple.com/downloads/Java_for_Mac_OS_X_10_5_Update_4[/URL] And to add my two cents to this IDE discussion, I think a person new to the Ruby language should consider using a text editor like emacs/vi at first and then see what other things are out there. Personally, I prefer using Eclipse or Netbeans on *nix and have used some really nice commercial plug-ins with Visual Studio on widows that are also pretty great, taking full advantage of intellisense. It's important to use something like emacs or vi at first because it gives you an idea of what could be improved upon (and emacs is super customizable; there are some great tutorials on setting it up for Ruby developmen,t totally worth researching). As you become more proficient and become involved in software development projects that encompass many developers, you might see more IDEs or more powerful editors in use (depending on the company you're working for). There are lots of reasons for this many of which have to do with adding unit test coverage, supporting development environments, etc. that you can obviously do very easily in many different tools (which is great about software development in general), but IDEs can make this a one stop shop where you can do all these things which is very appealing to developers when working on a large software project. p.s. regarding java versioning, you should look at this link: [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history[/URL] Good luck! [/QUOTE]

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