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Message: [QUOTE="jameskuyper, post: 3205700"] This is just a matter of reading and correctly interpreting the productions listed in section 6.7p1. I left out init-declarator, between the last two items there. See sections 6.7.5p1 and 6.7p1. I sincerely doubt that any modern compiler produces different code depending upon whether if-then-else or ?: is used, and I'm quite sure that any such minor efficiencies have nothing to do with the reason why it exists. The ?: operator is syntactic sugar, which makes certain construct much simpler to write. It's not necessary, but it is occasionally convenient, and convenience should not be underrated as a feature of a computer programming language. [/QUOTE]