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Message: [QUOTE="Greg Willits, post: 4578834"] The ternary operator is not used very often, Ruby offers a different Ah, OK. Strange structure. (rhetorical Q:) Why read through all the do_stuff if it isn't going to matter by the time you get the IF? I guess I'll switch to that if it is more customary. OK, thanks for confirming that. Sure, name makes sense, but so does allowing a form w/o the ELSE (which is what I am accustomed to doing). Tried that early on and still got errors, but after experimenting more I see now its beacuse I only tried that in a few places rather than in all ternaries in the script. Once I did it for all, the script worked. Indeed. Thanks much. -- gw [/QUOTE]