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Message: [QUOTE="Greg Willits, post: 4578852"] I know there's a book called The Ruby Way -- does it tend to address Cool, I'll get the book. I'm overseeing a Rails project, so I need to have at least a working familiarity with both, though I'm more interested in learning Ruby to a deeper level than Rails. (I've been doing all my own work in another language & my own framework). However, I'm also going to be doing a bunch of automated / CLI data aggregation and misc utility work which I chose Ruby for -- mostly to force the issue of familiarity. Heh. True. :-) I'm sure I will. My first code has been a simple web crawler. After getting over a few little syntax humps, it's been fairly easy to implement. Thanks everyone. I look forward to more chats :-) -- gw [/QUOTE]