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Message: [QUOTE="Tim X, post: 4872050"] Yes, I was thinking about that as a possible option. Don't know anything about ABCL and was hoping to stick with a familiar ANSI implementation such as SBCL or even CLISP. Don't know anything about the interface/mapping between ABCL and java libs and wsn't sure if I was going that route whether I would be better off just jumping into clojure as I've been thinking about finding some project to try it out. Is there much that would take getting accustomed to in ABCL that may feel 'foreign' and how ANSI compliant is it? thanks, Tim thanks for the suggestion Tim [/QUOTE]