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Message: [QUOTE="Peter J. Holzer, post: 4872092"] That and they had to fit the compiler into 64k of memory. And it had to finish in a reasonable time on a PDP-11. That somewhat limits what you can do even if you know how to write a better language in theory. (I do remember the MFII COBOL compiler on an 8086 - compiling our program took half an hour) Pascal is older than C. And its pointers are (were?) particularly useless. Modula-2 was actually quite nice. One can see that Wirth used it to write real code and not just for teaching :-). hp [/QUOTE]