Total newbie (experienced C++ dev) looking for C# with ASP.Net book or...

[WTH]

....pointers.

Any good books or starting points? New job in a few weeks and they want to
start using C# with ASP.Net and I know exactly zero about either.

Much appreciated,

WTH

 

[Kevin Spencer]

If you're experienced with C++, you should have no trouble adapting to C#.
The Microsoft .Net SDK is a free download, and I highly recommend it:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...A6-3647-4070-9F41-A333C6B9181D&displaylang=en

ASP.Net is actually a good bit harder to work with than Desktop executables,
as HTTP is stateless, which makes maintaining state across page views
complicated. As it is an Internetwork technology, security is also
problematic.

--
HTH,
Kevin Spencer
..Net Developer
Microsoft MVP
Big things are made up
of lots of little things.

 

[WTH]

If you're experienced with C++, you should have no trouble adapting to C#.
The Microsoft .Net SDK is a free download, and I highly recommend it:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...A6-3647-4070-9F41-A333C6B9181D&displaylang=en

ASP.Net is actually a good bit harder to work with than Desktop executables,
as HTTP is stateless, which makes maintaining state across page views
complicated. As it is an Internetwork technology, security is also
problematic.

I've got Java EJB experience as well, I assume that there are session
contexts of some sort for state persistance betwixt pages.

I started using C# today and can't believe how incredibly similar to Java it
is in form and syntax.

WTH

 

[Kevin Spencer]

There is Session State alright, but there are other caching mechanisms as
well, with different scopes, for different purposes. For example, for Page
scope, there is ViewState, which compresses page-specific data into a hidden
form field in the client HTML document, so that when it posts back, the
server can restore its state. There is also Application State, which is
truly global. And a few other minor players.

Yes, it is similar to (but better than) Java. And if you've ever done any
Delphi, you may notice similarity there as well.

--
HTH,
Kevin Spencer
..Net Developer
Microsoft MVP
Big things are made up
of lots of little things.

 

[Kevin Spencer]

Just an unrelated comment, why would any body go from C++ to C# - not that

anything is wrong with it, but to me it is a step down?!

Can you write a .Net application in C++?

--
HTH,
Kevin Spencer
..Net Developer
Microsoft MVP
Big things are made up
of lots of little things.

 

[WTH]

Can you write a .Net application in C++?

Afaik you can . You just don't want to.

WTH

 

[WTH]

Just an unrelated comment, why would any body go from C++ to C# - not that
anything is wrong with it, but to me it is a step down?!

Different tool for a different purpose. The shop I'm going to work for uses
ASP .Net for web administration of certain back end services and they want
to use C# with ASP .Net rather than VBScript or other scripting languages.

I'll still be doing C++/OpenGL/DirectX code as well, that's just a different
set of responsibilities.

WTH

 

[Alvin Bruney [MVP]]

I believe C# offers a better, more efficient way of doing routine tasks.
that's the reason i switched. it's difficult to accept other languages at
first because C++ is like a cult.

 

[Ben Lovell]

Hi,

If you're starting out i'd recommend the following books for ASP.NET, C# and
the .NET framework in general:

Essential ASP.NET with examples in C# (Fritz Onion)
Inside C# (Tom Archer)
Applied Microsoft.NET Framework Programming (Richter)

Take a look at the Quickstart tutorials that are installed with the .NET SDK
also for a good starting point. With your kind of background you shouldn't
have any trouble picking up the essentials.


--
Ben
http://bitarray.co.uk/ben

I believe C# offers a better, more efficient way of doing routine tasks.
that's the reason i switched. it's difficult to accept other languages at
first because C++ is like a cult.

--
Regards,
Alvin Bruney
[ASP.NET MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx]
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Just an unrelated comment, why would any body go from C++ to C# - not
that
anything is wrong with it, but to me it is a step down?!

 

[Joerg Jooss]

Just an unrelated comment, why would any body go from C++ to C# - not
that anything is wrong with it, but to me it is a step down?!

If gravity inverts, it's a step down ;-)

Cheers,

 

[Stephanie_Stowe]

If you're experienced with C++, you should have no trouble adapting to
C#.

The Microsoft .Net SDK is a free download, and I highly recommend it:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=9B3A2CA6-3647-4070->
9F41-A333C6B9181D&displaylang=en

ASP.Net is actually a good bit harder to work with than Desktop executables,
as HTTP is stateless, which makes maintaining state across page views
complicated. As it is an Internetwork technology, security is also
problematic.

OK, I guess this is a little bit of a digression. But I do not agree that
ASP.NET (or really web dev) is any *harder* than desktop apps. Just
different. Trade state management with client dll dependencies and the
need for installers. Trade the web security hastles with the hastles of
having client apps authenticate directly to the data store...