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Message: [QUOTE="Scott M., post: 2771955"] Not at all! I noticed you added: run="server" (it should actually be runat="server", by the way), but by doing that, you have changed the control from an HTML Form Element to a .NET HTML Server control (which is then represented by a server-side class and does give the object server-side programmability.). Thus, you provided a response that has nothing to do with the question or my reply. Do you see the subject of this thread: "what's the difference between a normal form element and a web control element?"? An HTML Server Control (runat="server") is not a "normal form element", it is a web control. So, basically, your response is comparing a web control to a web control, not a normal HTML form element to a web control. -Scott [/QUOTE]