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Message: [QUOTE="Mel Bohince, post: 4466729"] Joe, I'll defer to experienced, but yes, it seems like overkill when not a strongly-typed lng. I just wanted some hands-on experience as I read the Pick-Ax; thought that working with some classic coding situations would be a good contrived problem that would help me retain Ruby. (I spend most of my work day writing in 4D which is not OO.) Also, the "Head First" book is really motivating; the writing style is truly impressive. -: -: -: -: -: -: -: -: \|/ -: -: -: -: -: -: -: -: cU mel [/QUOTE]