Where to Start

[Darpa]

hellos, i´m a really begginer and kinda dumb.....

i want to know where to start to get in the mood, i havent been able to
do much, i´ve been working with eclipse but its really confusing, and
i´m not really getting how things work,

well basically i´m asking for your help if u please show me the way to
understand java from the beggining.

Thank you lots

 

[Joe]

Hi Darpa,

I would probably start with a text editor of your choice (I like
EditPlus) and use the programs like javac that come with your jdk
distribution to compile your programs.
IDE's (Eclipse, NetBeans, etc) are a tough thing to understand if you
dont really know what you are doing yet.

Also a good beginner site is that'll teach you from the very beginning
is:

http://library.thinkquest.org/11537/

--Joe

P.S. Being a beginner doesnt make you dumb.

 

[Chris Smith]

hellos, i=3Fm a really begginer and kinda dumb.....

i want to know where to start to get in the mood, i havent been able to
do much, i=3Fve been working with eclipse but its really confusing, and
i=3Fm not really getting how things work,

well basically i=3Fm asking for your help if u please show me the way to
understand java from the beggining.

Hmm. Is your problem with Eclipse, or with Java programming? It's not
clear from what you wrote.

If Java, then the Java Tutorial (Google will find it) is very good.
Also, you'll want a good book at some point. If you've programmed
before, check out "Java Precisely", and expect to spend a lot more time
than the 140-page length of the book would lead you to believe.
Otherwise, Bruce Eckel's "Thinking in Java" has always been a good place
to start. Don't try to get by without a book, ESPECIALLY if this is
your first programming language. Books are certainly cheap, anyway,
compared to your time.

If Eclipse, then I don't know a good source to learn it better. It's
always seemed pretty straight-forward to me, although I'm still
constantly learning more that I don't know about the more exotic
capabilities and available plugins. You could try asking specific
questions.

In either case: (a) there isn't really a "mood" that will help
everything make sense; you just have to learn it; and (b) don't say that
you're dumb. That kind of psychological defense mechanism prevents you
from taking chances or trying things out, and it will cause you to spend
ten times as long learning as you could otherwise get away with. I'm
sure you aren't any more dumb than most people learning a new language.

--
www.designacourse.com
The Easiest Way To Train Anyone... Anywhere.

Chris Smith - Lead Software Developer/Technical Trainer
MindIQ Corporation

 

[Geert-Jan]

hellos, i´m a really begginer and kinda dumb.....

i want to know where to start to get in the mood, i havent been able to
do much, i´ve been working with eclipse but its really confusing, and
i´m not really getting how things work,

well basically i´m asking for your help if u please show me the way to
understand java from the beggining.

Thank you lots

Hi Darpa,

Have you checked out the http://java.sun.com/ website? They have a
section specifically tailored for newcomers to the Java platform. It can
be found at:

http://java.sun.com/developer/onlineTraining/new2java/index.html

Also, you can find on line the book: "the Java Tutorial" at:

http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/index.html

This book is now in it's third edition, and I found it very good.

Both links can also be found from the learning section in left-side menu
of the http://java.sun.com/ website. If you haven't downloaded the
Java JDK (the Java Development Kit) yet, you can get it also there.

Have Fun!

 

[Darpa]

WELL THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE, HOPEFULLY I WILL BE ASKING MORE
RELEVANT THINGS IN TIMES TO COME

LOVE

 

[josh.s17]

Not so sure about this site....

http://library.thinkquest.org/11537/

This is a direct quote from it

"JavaScript - it is Java that is put directly into HTML, and does some
really amazing things."

 

[Chris Smith]

Not so sure about this site....

http://library.thinkquest.org/11537/

This is a direct quote from it

"JavaScript - it is Java that is put directly into HTML, and does some
really amazing things."

Indeed, that page doesn't seem to be too awfully interested in being
correct. The same page gets it closer to right regarding JavaScript in
a different section, but I'm nto sure what to trust. To paraphrase John
Rawls, truth is the first virtue of knowledge; knowledge, no matter how
elegant or intuitive, ought to be abandoned if it is not true.

I'd forget that site.

--
www.designacourse.com
The Easiest Way To Train Anyone... Anywhere.

Chris Smith - Lead Software Developer/Technical Trainer
MindIQ Corporation

 

[Christoph Watzl]

hellos, i´m a really begginer and kinda dumb.....

i want to know where to start to get in the mood, i havent been able to
do much, i´ve been working with eclipse but its really confusing, and
i´m not really getting how things work,

well basically i´m asking for your help if u please show me the way to
understand java from the beggining.

Thank you lots

Hi,

are you a beginner at Java only or is it your very first programming
language? If the latter is true (which I assume), I would strongly
recommend you to reconsider your decision to chose Java as first
programming language.
Maybe some guys here would have me killed for that, but in my opinion
Java is a terrible language for absolute beginners. It is very powerful
and easy to learn and handle because of its high abstraction level _if
you know what you're doing_, but to really understand how Java (or
similar languages such as C#) works you should already have some basic
concept of object-oriented programming because the high degree of
abstraction can be quite dangerous for beginners. For instance, Java
makes no syntactical difference between static and dynamic objects (in
fact, it doesn't know static objects at all). This is perfectly o.k. for
practical use but can make it harder for beginners to understand object
oriented concepts such as polymorphism; and, of course, the garbage
collector (which is a great thing in itself) makes you forget about
memory management.
Therefore, I would recommend to learn a more "traditional" programming
language such as Objective Pascal or even C++ first - I know the latter
is quite hard to learn, but once you've understood object-oriented
programming in C++, Java and the likes will be a piece of cake; and -
more importantly - you really know what you are doing, because C++
forces you to actually think about everything.

So much about my opinion on this matter; before anybody starts flaming
me, please be reminded that this is just my opinion, no more, no less; I
don't make any claims of truth or whatsoever.

Regards,
Chris

 

[Rhino]

WELL THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE, HOPEFULLY I WILL BE ASKING MORE
RELEVANT THINGS IN TIMES TO COME

And giving your caps lock key a rest too, I hope!

 

[Darpa]

I have some experience with programing, never with object oriented
though, i know pascal and c but no objects there.
I´ve had some classes at my college about designing and analising
object oriented structures but never really programed nothing.
I also incursionated a little in smalltalk with really messed with my
head

 

[dimitar]

If you are new to Java and if you are not not in a hurry, I'd suggest
getting a good book and working your way through it before jumping to
writing code that you'll regret Here is a freebie
http://www.mindview.net/Books/TIJ/

If you are new to programing as a whole, I've found that for some people
really worked to start from here: http://diveintopython.org/

 

[Juha Laiho]

I would probably start with a text editor of your choice (I like
EditPlus) and use the programs like javac that come with your jdk
distribution to compile your programs.
Agreed.

Also a good beginner site is that'll teach you from the very beginning
is:

http://library.thinkquest.org/11537/

Rather not, as others have said;
- the site contains quite a lot of misleading information
- many links are broken
- seems to be based on Java implementation roughly 10 years back

I'd rather recommend a beginner to take his steps through the
Java Tutorial (http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/), which
is maintained along with the new Java releases.

This is more than just applets, and more than just graphics.
It also gives a lot better treatise on getting started with the
basic tools.

 

[Joe]

http://library.thinkquest.org/11537/

Rather not, as others have said;
- the site contains quite a lot of misleading information
- many links are broken
- seems to be based on Java implementation roughly 10 years back

Yeah, I agree with you guys about that site, sorry about that.

--Joe