asp code does not render for first record in looped recordset

Discussion in 'ASP General' started by haft@canchair.com, Jul 22, 2008.

  1. Guest

    I have posted this question on a javascript forum as it contains
    javascript code however it was believed to be an asp issue.

    The following head section javascript code contains the function
    showBigImage( isource,bigImage,header ) function call of discussion:

    var currentImage;
    function showBigImage( isource,bigImage,header ) {
    var theImage = document.getElementById( 'largeimage' );
    theImage.src = isource;
    currentImage = bigImage;
    document.getElementById( 'photoHeader' ).innerHTML=header;
    document.getElementById( 'largeimage' ).alt=header;

    The following rendered looped recordset code illustrates how the
    "header" parameter of this showBigImage( isource,bigImage,header )
    function call does not render ONLY FOR THE FIRST RECORD OF THE
    RECORDSET as it is blank:

    <a href= "javascript:;" > <td height=36 valign="middle"
    class="small_img" onmouseover="showBigImage( 'imagescript.asp?
    path=images/portable_stage.jpg&width=250','images/
    portable_stage.jpg','' )"> <img src="imagescript.asp?path=images/
    portable_stage.jpg&width=36" border="0" alt="" /> </td> </a>

    <a href= "javascript:;" > <td height=36 valign="middle"
    class="small_img" onmouseover="showBigImage( 'imagescript.asp?
    path=images/seated_riserset.jpg&width=250','images/
    seated_riserset.jpg','Portable stage configuration using 9 units of
    the 3 ft x 8 ft platforms in 3 different heights' )"> <img
    src="imagescript.asp?path=images/seated_riserset.jpg&width=36"
    border="0" alt="" /> </td> </a>

    <a href= "javascript:;" > <td height=36 valign="middle"
    class="small_img" onmouseover="showBigImage( 'imagescript.asp?
    path=images/Stageset.jpg&width=250','images/Stageset.jpg','Portable
    stage configuration using 16 units of the 4 ft x 8 ft platforms' )">
    <img src="imagescript.asp?path=images/Stageset.jpg&width=36"
    border="0" alt="" /> </td> </a>

    <a href= "javascript:;" > <td height=36 valign="middle"
    class="small_img" onmouseover="showBigImage( 'imagescript.asp?
    path=images/Runset.jpg&width=250','images/Runset.jpg','Portable stage
    runset configuration' )"> <img src="imagescript.asp?path=images/
    Runset.jpg&width=36" border="0" alt="" /> </td> </a>


    Because of this problem, the caption text does not display for this
    first image record once the thumbnail images are moused over. You can
    view this page example at
    http://www.canchair.com/new_web_product_detail.asp?ProductID=198&ProductFamily=1&ProductFamilySub=10
     
    , Jul 22, 2008
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  2. Evertjan. Guest

    wrote on 22 jul 2008 in microsoft.public.inetserver.asp.general:

    > I have posted this question on a javascript forum as it contains
    > javascript code however it was believed to be an asp issue.


    There is no ASP code in the below.

    > The following head section javascript code contains the function
    > showBigImage( isource,bigImage,header ) function call of discussion:
    >
    > var currentImage;
    > function showBigImage( isource,bigImage,header ) {
    > var theImage = document.getElementById( 'largeimage' );
    > theImage.src = isource;
    > currentImage = bigImage;
    > document.getElementById( 'photoHeader' ).innerHTML=header;
    > document.getElementById( 'largeimage' ).alt=header;


    This is clientside code, so you are off topic.

    > The following rendered looped recordset code illustrates how the
    > "header" parameter of this showBigImage( isource,bigImage,header )
    > function call does not render ONLY FOR THE FIRST RECORD OF THE
    > RECORDSET as it is blank:
    >
    > <a href= "javascript:;" > <td height=36 valign="middle"
    > class="small_img" onmouseover="showBigImage( 'imagescript.asp?
    > path=images/portable_stage.jpg&width=250','images/
    > portable_stage.jpg','' )"> <img src="imagescript.asp?path=images/
    > portable_stage.jpg&width=36" border="0" alt="" /> </td> </a>
    >
    > <a href= "javascript:;" > <td height=36 valign="middle"
    > class="small_img" onmouseover="showBigImage( 'imagescript.asp?
    > path=images/seated_riserset.jpg&width=250','images/
    > seated_riserset.jpg','Portable stage configuration using 9 units of
    > the 3 ft x 8 ft platforms in 3 different heights' )"> <img
    > src="imagescript.asp?path=images/seated_riserset.jpg&width=36"
    > border="0" alt="" /> </td> </a>
    >
    > <a href= "javascript:;" > <td height=36 valign="middle"
    > class="small_img" onmouseover="showBigImage( 'imagescript.asp?
    > path=images/Stageset.jpg&width=250','images/Stageset.jpg','Portable
    > stage configuration using 16 units of the 4 ft x 8 ft platforms' )">
    > <img src="imagescript.asp?path=images/Stageset.jpg&width=36"
    > border="0" alt="" /> </td> </a>
    >
    > <a href= "javascript:;" > <td height=36 valign="middle"
    > class="small_img" onmouseover="showBigImage( 'imagescript.asp?
    > path=images/Runset.jpg&width=250','images/Runset.jpg','Portable stage
    > runset configuration' )"> <img src="imagescript.asp?path=images/
    > Runset.jpg&width=36" border="0" alt="" /> </td> </a>
    >
    >
    > Because of this problem, the caption text does not display for this
    > first image record once the thumbnail images are moused over. You can
    > view this page example at
    > http://www.canchair.com/new_web_product_detail.asp?ProductID=198&Produc
    > tFamily=1&ProductFamilySub=10
    >




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    Evertjan., Jul 22, 2008
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  3. wrote:
    > I have posted this question on a javascript forum as it contains
    > javascript code however it was believed to be an asp issue.


    Given that there is no server-side code shown here, I'm not sure what
    led whoever it was to believe that this was an ASP issue.

    If it is an asp issue then we have no chance of debugging it without
    seeing the server-side code contained in ...imagescript.asp
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    Bob Barrows [MVP], Jul 22, 2008
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  4. Guest

    On Jul 22, 4:24 pm, "Bob Barrows [MVP]" <>
    wrote:
    > wrote:
    > > I have posted this question on a javascript forum as it contains
    > > javascript code however it was believed to be an asp issue.

    >
    > Given that there is no server-side code shown here, I'm not sure what
    > led whoever it was to believe that this was an ASP issue.
    >
    > If it is an asp issue then we have no chance of debugging it without
    > seeing the server-side code contained in ...imagescript.asp
    > --
    > Microsoft MVP -- ASP/ASP.NET
    > Please reply to the newsgroup. The email account listed in my From
    > header is my spam trap, so I don't check it very often. You will get a
    > quicker response by posting to the newsgroup.


    You are absolutely right. I should've posted the asp code and here it
    is:

    <a href= "javascript:;" class="small_img" >
    <td height=36 valign="middle"
    class="small_img" onmouseover="showBigImage( 'imagescript.asp?path=<%=
    images.Fields.Item( "url_img" ).Value %>&width=250','<%=
    images.Fields.Item( "url_img" ).Value %>','<
    %=(images.Fields.Item("alt_img").Value)%>' )"><img
    src="imagescript.asp?path=<%= images.Fields.Item( "url_img" ).Value
    %>&width=36" border="0" alt="" /> </td>
    </a>
     
    , Jul 23, 2008
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  5. Evertjan. Guest

    wrote on 23 jul 2008 in microsoft.public.inetserver.asp.general:

    > On Jul 22, 4:24 pm, "Bob Barrows [MVP]" <>
    > wrote:
    >> wrote:
    >> > I have posted this question on a javascript forum as it contains
    >> > javascript code however it was believed to be an asp issue.

    >>
    >> Given that there is no server-side code shown here, I'm not sure what
    >> led whoever it was to believe that this was an ASP issue.
    >>
    >> If it is an asp issue then we have no chance of debugging it without
    >> seeing the server-side code contained in ...imagescript.asp
    >> --
    >> Microsoft MVP -- ASP/ASP.NET
    >> Please reply to the newsgroup. The email account listed in my From
    >> header is my spam trap, so I don't check it very often. You will get
    >> a quicker response by posting to the newsgroup.

    >
    > You are absolutely right. I should've posted the asp code and here it
    > is:
    >
    > <a href= "javascript:;" class="small_img" >
    > <td height=36 valign="middle"
    > class="small_img" onmouseover="showBigImage(
    > 'imagescript.asp?path=<%images.Fields.Item( "url_img" ).Value
    > %>&width=250','<%images.Fields.Item( "url_img" ).Value %>','<
    > %=(images.Fields.Item("alt_img").Value)%>' )"><img
    > src="imagescript.asp?path=<%= images.Fields.Item( "url_img" ).Value
    > %>&width=36" border="0" alt="" /> </td>
    > </a>
    >


    If the ASP string is correct, even then this:

    <%images.Fields.Item( "url_img" ).Value %>

    will not do in ASP, or render to the html-string, anything,
    so perhaps you want to try:

    <% = images.Fields.Item( "url_img" ).Value %>

    [etc.]

    However,
    since you do not show the relevant serverside database access code,
    or even what database you use,
    I cannot say.

    And we do not know if imagescript.asp will process the querystring value
    correctly

    And if the resultstring of
    <% = images.Fields.Item( "url_img" ).Value %>
    is encoded to precvent it to have characters that break the querystring,
    [like an apostrophe].

    Even the html is wrong:
    <td .... /></td>
    [why the /> ?]
    and
    <a ...><td .... /></td>...</a>
    is wrong,
    and
    <a href= "javascript:;" class="small_img" >
    is questionable,
    but that all is off topic on this NG.


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    Evertjan., Jul 23, 2008
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  6. wrote:
    > On Jul 22, 4:24 pm, "Bob Barrows [MVP]" <>
    > wrote:
    >> wrote:
    >>> I have posted this question on a javascript forum as it contains
    >>> javascript code however it was believed to be an asp issue.

    >>
    >> Given that there is no server-side code shown here, I'm not sure what
    >> led whoever it was to believe that this was an ASP issue.
    >>
    >> If it is an asp issue then we have no chance of debugging it without
    >> seeing the server-side code contained in ...imagescript.asp

    >
    > You are absolutely right. I should've posted the asp code and here it
    > is:
    >
    > <a href= "javascript:;" class="small_img" >
    > <td height=36 valign="middle"
    > class="small_img" onmouseover="showBigImage( 'imagescript.asp?path=<%=
    > images.Fields.Item( "url_img" ).Value %>&width=250','<%=
    > images.Fields.Item( "url_img" ).Value %>','<
    > %=(images.Fields.Item("alt_img").Value)%>' )"><img
    > src="imagescript.asp?path=<%= images.Fields.Item( "url_img" ).Value
    > %>&width=36" border="0" alt="" /> </td>
    > </a>


    Err ... that is not the code contained in imagescript.asp is it? No mention
    of a recordset, for one thing ...

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    Bob Barrows [MVP], Jul 23, 2008
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  7. Guest

    i really appreciate the responses.


    the imagescript page is the page that resizes the images but i have no
    issues with the images but rather the alt_img database field not
    rendering properly for the initial recordset value.

    and database type is Access.


    imagescript.asp code:

    <%


    Response.Expires = 0
    ' create instance of AspJpeg
    Set Jpeg = Server.CreateObject("Persits.Jpeg")

    If Request.QueryString("width")=36 Then
    Jpeg.New 36, 36, &HFFFFFF
    Else
    Jpeg.New 250, 250, &HFFFFFF
    End If

    ' Open source file
    Jpeg.Open Server.MapPath(Request.QueryString("path"))

    'Jpeg.Width = Request("Width")

    L = Request("Width")

    'Jpeg.Height = Jpeg.OriginalHeight * Jpeg.Width / Jpeg.OriginalWidth

    If jpeg.OriginalWidth > jpeg.OriginalHeight Then
    jpeg.Width = L
    jpeg.Height = jpeg.OriginalHeight * L / jpeg.OriginalWidth
    Else
    jpeg.Height = L
    jpeg.Width = jpeg.OriginalWidth * L / jpeg.OriginalHeight
    End If

    ' Perform resizing and
    ' send resultant image to client browser
    Jpeg.SendBinary

    %>
     
    , Jul 23, 2008
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  8. Guest

    This is the code to narrow in on:

    onmouseover="showBigImage( 'imagescript.asp?path=<%=
    images.Fields.Item( "url_img" ).Value %>&width=250','<%=
    images.Fields.Item( "url_img" ).Value %>','<
    %=(images.Fields.Item("alt_img").Value)%>' )">

    This '<%=(images.Fields.Item("alt_img").Value)%>' portion of the code
    is what is not rendering for the initial image of the recordset
     
    , Jul 23, 2008
    #8
  9. wrote:
    > i really appreciate the responses.
    >
    >
    > the imagescript page is the page that resizes the images but i have no
    > issues with the images but rather the alt_img database field not
    > rendering properly for the initial recordset value.


    So I guess I still don't understand the suspicion that this is an
    ASP/server-side code problem.

    >
    > and database type is Access.
    >
    >
    > imagescript.asp code:
    >

    <snip>
    Still no mention of a recordset ... ?
    I don't know how we can help.

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    Bob Barrows [MVP], Jul 23, 2008
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  10. wrote:
    > This is the code to narrow in on:
    >
    > onmouseover="showBigImage( 'imagescript.asp?path=<%=
    > images.Fields.Item( "url_img" ).Value %>&width=250','<%=
    > images.Fields.Item( "url_img" ).Value %>','<
    > %=(images.Fields.Item("alt_img").Value)%>' )">
    >
    > This '<%=(images.Fields.Item("alt_img").Value)%>' portion of the code
    > is what is not rendering for the initial image of the recordset


    No it isn't. There is no mention of a recordset here, unless images is a
    recordset object. If so, we need to see the code used to open the
    recordset (and its connection) as well as a description of the database
    table (field datatypes and names), along with the code used to navigate
    to the record whose alt_img field you wish to display. Try to slice out
    as much html as possible so we can focus on the server-side ADO code.


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    Bob Barrows [MVP], Jul 23, 2008
    #10
  11. wrote on Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:45:54 -0700 (PDT):

    > This is the code to narrow in on:


    > onmouseover="showBigImage( 'imagescript.asp?path=<%=
    > images.Fields.Item( "url_img" ).Value %>&width=250','<%=
    > images.Fields.Item( "url_img" ).Value %>','<
    > %=(images.Fields.Item("alt_img").Value)%>' )">


    > This '<%=(images.Fields.Item("alt_img").Value)%>' portion of the code
    > is what is not rendering for the initial image of the recordset



    Silly question, but are you sure the value of alt_img for that row in the
    database actually has a value?

    And another thing to consider (which shouldn't affect this though) is that
    you should ensure that there is no way to get an apostrophe into your
    database, or if you do allow it that you ensure that you escape it (ie store
    it as \') or else you risk breaking the javascript handling in the client
    (or even worse potentially allowing cross-site scripting).

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    Daniel Crichton, Jul 23, 2008
    #11
  12. Guest

    CONNECTION SCRIPT PAGE CODE:

    <%
    ' FileName="Connection_ado_conn_string.htm"
    ' Type="ADO"
    ' DesigntimeType="ADO"
    ' HTTP="true"
    ' Catalog=""
    ' Schema=""
    Dim MM_Custom4_STRING
    MM_Custom4_STRING = "Driver={Microsoft Access Driver (*.mdb)};DBQ=" &
    Server.MapPath("/access_db/Custom4.mdb")
    %>

    PAGE CODE OF DISCUSSION:

    <!--#include file="Connections/Custom4.asp" -->
    <%
    Dim images
    Dim images_numRows


    Set images = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Recordset")
    images.ActiveConnection = MM_Custom4_STRING
    images.Source = "SELECT url_img, alt_img, sort_img_prd, productfam,
    productid_img, ColourAtt1, ColourAtt2, ColourAtt3, subfam, desc_fam,
    title_fam FROM images WHERE productid_img = " +
    Replace(images__MMColParam, "'", "''") + ""
    If Request.QueryString("ProductFamily") <>"" Then
    images.Source = images.Source & " OR
    ProductFam="&Request.QueryString("ProductFamily")&""
    End If
    images.Source = images.Source & " AND ColourAtt1 IS NULL AND
    ColourAtt2 IS NULL AND ColourAtt3 IS NULL ORDER BY sort_img_prd DESC"
    'images.Source = "SELECT url_img, alt_img, sort_img_prd, productfam,
    productid_img, ColourAtt1, ColourAtt2, ColourAtt3, sub, desc_fam,
    title_fam FROM images WHERE productid_img = " +
    Replace(images__MMColParam, "'", "''") + " OR (ProductFam=1) ORDER BY
    sort_img_prd DESC"
    images.CursorType = 0
    images.CursorLocation = 2
    images.LockType = 1
    images.Open()

    images_numRows = 0

    %>


    "images" is an access select query comprised of all the fields listed
    in the above recordset select statement.
    "alt_img" is a Memo Data Type (The General values listed are:
    Required: No, Allow Zero Length: No, Indexed: Yes (Duplicates OK),
    Unicode Compression: Yes, IME Mode: No Control, IME Sentence Mode:
    None)

    And no, there are no apostrophes in the alt_img values to be tripping
    the javascript code and yes, the alt_img field does contain a value. I
    have tested this page on 3 different products and the same occurs for
    each as to verify that this is not a product-specific error.
     
    , Jul 23, 2008
    #12
  13. wrote:
    > CONNECTION SCRIPT PAGE CODE:
    >
    > <%
    > ' FileName="Connection_ado_conn_string.htm"
    > ' Type="ADO"
    > ' DesigntimeType="ADO"
    > ' HTTP="true"
    > ' Catalog=""
    > ' Schema=""
    > Dim MM_Custom4_STRING
    > MM_Custom4_STRING = "Driver={Microsoft Access Driver (*.mdb)};DBQ=" &
    > Server.MapPath("/access_db/Custom4.mdb")
    > %>


    OK, you should not be using the obsolete ODBC driver when there is a
    native OLE DB Jet provider; the connection string should be

    "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;" & _
    data source = " & Server.MapPath("/access_db/Custom4.mdb")

    >

    <snip>
    > Set images = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Recordset")
    > images.ActiveConnection = MM_Custom4_STRING


    Nothing to do with your problem, but this is poor coding practice. You
    should use an explicit connection object to make sure connection pooling
    can work properly:

    dim cn:set cn = createobject)"adodb.connection")
    cn.open MM_Custom4_STRING

    > images.Source = "SELECT url_img, alt_img, sort_img_prd, productfam,
    > productid_img, ColourAtt1, ColourAtt2, ColourAtt3, subfam, desc_fam,
    > title_fam FROM images WHERE productid_img = " +
    > Replace(images__MMColParam, "'", "''") + ""


    Again, nothing to do with your problem, but the + signs should be &
    symbols. A better practice would be to assign this string to a variable
    which will make debugging easier:

    dim sSQL
    sSQL = "SELECT ... "

    > If Request.QueryString("ProductFamily") <>"" Then
    > images.Source = images.Source & " OR
    > ProductFam="&Request.QueryString("ProductFamily")&""
    > End If
    > images.Source = images.Source & " AND ColourAtt1 IS NULL AND
    > ColourAtt2 IS NULL AND ColourAtt3 IS NULL ORDER BY sort_img_prd DESC"
    > 'images.Source = "SELECT url_img, alt_img, sort_img_prd, productfam,
    > productid_img, ColourAtt1, ColourAtt2, ColourAtt3, sub, desc_fam,
    > title_fam FROM images WHERE productid_img = " +
    > Replace(images__MMColParam, "'", "''") + " OR (ProductFam=1) ORDER BY
    > sort_img_prd DESC"


    Same comment: don't assign this stuff directly to the Source property.

    > images.CursorType = 0
    > images.CursorLocation = 2
    > images.LockType = 1


    Hmmm ... going to a lot of trouble to set default properties ...

    > images.Open()


    Here is how it should look:
    images.Open sSQL, cn,,,1
    Actually, you could boil all the above down to:

    dim sSQL
    sSQL = "SELECT ... "
    dim cn:set cn = createobject)"adodb.connection")
    cn.open MM_Custom4_STRING
    set images=cn.execute(sSQL,,1)

    Make sure you close both the recordset and the connection when you are
    finished using them.

    >
    > images_numRows = 0
    >
    > %>
    >
    >
    > "images" is an access select query

    (excuse the nitpick)
    Er, no. "images" is a recordset object opened using a select statement
    run against a Jet database.
    The select query is the string that hopefully you will change the code
    to assign to sSQL.

    > comprised of all the fields listed
    > in the above recordset select statement.
    > "alt_img" is a Memo Data Type (The General values listed are:
    > Required: No,


    So nulls are allowed ... You said you tested whether the first record
    had a value in alt_img but failed to say how you tested this.

    > Allow Zero Length: No, Indexed: Yes (Duplicates OK),
    > Unicode Compression: Yes, IME Mode: No Control, IME Sentence Mode:
    > None)
    >


    I see no problems besides the poor coding practices I highlighted. Try
    the changes i suggested, and if they don't help, I doubt this is an "asp
    problem". It is likely to be a data problem with the data in the
    database. One thing:
    do you have the same problem if you change sort_img_prd DESC to
    sort_img_prd ASC?
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    Bob Barrows [MVP], Jul 23, 2008
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  14. Old Pedant Guest

    Not sure why some posters thought this had anything to do with JS and nothing
    to do with recordset.

    I certainly don't know anything other than a recordset object that uses the
    code pattern
    [name].Field.Item('...fieldname...").Value

    Now, it's also true that DumbWeaver is plunking in way too much code there.

    The expression
    <% = images.Fields.Item( "url_img" ).Value %>
    is 100% equivalent to the easier-to-write, easier-to-read, and MEASURABLY
    FASTER
    <%=images("url_img")%>
    And I do recommend that you switch to that.

    ***************

    Having said all that.

    I see no reason at all in any of your code that the first description
    doesn't show up in the output. (And it's clearly nothing to do with
    apostrophes...a VIEW-->>SOURCE of the HTML of your page shows that there is
    NOTHING WHATSOEVER there.)

    So I have to question your actual database. Are you 100% *SURE* that you
    actually *HAVE* any text in the
    alt_img
    field for that given
    url_img
    value????

    In other words, go into your Access database (using Access, not using ASP,
    not using DumbWaster) and find the record where
    url_img
    is
    images/portable_stage.jpg
    Then, *IN THAT SAME RECORD*, find what the value of
    alt_img
    is. I am personally betting that the value is blank. And so you are
    getting exactly what you should.

    **********************

    I do note that your code isn't *REALLY* doing what it *SHOULD* be doing.

    You said to look at the UR
    http://www.canchair.com/new_web_product_detail.asp?ProductID=198&ProductFamily=1&ProductFamilySub=10

    I did. I also looked at
    ProductID=111
    and
    ProductFamilySub=12
    and tried various other combinations. And I still got the same images, no
    matter what.

    So given all that, maybe it's not surprising that the DB doesn't have a
    value in one field when you think it should.

    *************************************

    By the not so insignifcant by...your HTML code is ILLEGAL. It is rendering
    thus:

    <a href= "javascript:;" class="small_img" >
    <td height=36 valign="middle" class="small_img"
    onmouseover="showBigImage(
    'imagescript.asp?path=images/portable_stage.jpg&width=250','images/portable_stage.jpg',''
    )"><img src="imagescript.asp?path=images/portable_stage.jpg&width=36"
    border="0" alt="" > </td>
    </a>
    But it's illegal to have <A>...</A> tags *OUTSIDE* of the <TD>...</TD> tags.

    As it turns out, MSIE is sloppy and allows this. Don't count on other
    browser to do so.

    Of course, the bigger question is a simple one: What's the point of the <A>
    tag there, in the first place????? It is doing EXACTLY NOTHING. I would
    string recommend removing the <A> and </A> tags.
     
    Old Pedant, Jul 23, 2008
    #14
  15. Old Pedant wrote:
    > Not sure why some posters thought this had anything to do with JS and
    > nothing
    > to do with recordset.
    >


    If you're asking why I missed it, the answer is simple: I do not expect to
    see a recordset object named "images". Even if I had, I still had not seen
    enough to decide where the problem was.


    --
    Microsoft MVP - ASP/ASP.NET
    Please reply to the newsgroup. This email account is my spam trap so I
    don't check it very often. If you must reply off-line, then remove the
    "NO SPAM"
     
    Bob Barrows [MVP], Jul 24, 2008
    #15
  16. Old Pedant Guest

    "Bob Barrows [MVP]" wrote:
    > If you're asking why I missed it, the answer is simple: I do not expect to
    > see a recordset object named "images".


    I thought you weren't only one that missed that. I thought a couple of
    other posters did.

    But no matter. It's obvious you haven't had to work with the junk that DW
    produces as much as I have. I recognized its patterns (even its BigImage
    stuff) right off. I think, all in all, you should consider yourself very
    fortunate. <grin/>

    [I admit, I tend to go overboard, ragging on DreamWeaver, but sheesh!
    They've been producing the same crappy code since 1998 or so. I'm sure
    nobody is doing any active work on improving it, today, but you'd think that
    SOMEBODY would have changed SOME of their idiocies back in 2000 through 2002
    or so.]




    Even if I had, I still had not seen
    > enough to decide where the problem was.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Microsoft MVP - ASP/ASP.NET
    > Please reply to the newsgroup. This email account is my spam trap so I
    > don't check it very often. If you must reply off-line, then remove the
    > "NO SPAM"
    >
    >
    >
     
    Old Pedant, Jul 24, 2008
    #16
  17. Dooza Guest

    Old Pedant wrote:
    > [I admit, I tend to go overboard, ragging on DreamWeaver, but sheesh!
    > They've been producing the same crappy code since 1998 or so. I'm sure
    > nobody is doing any active work on improving it, today, but you'd think that
    > SOMEBODY would have changed SOME of their idiocies back in 2000 through 2002
    > or so.]


    Dreamweaver CS4 is in public beta, all they did was break the UI and
    improve the CSS abilities. The server side code hasn't changed since DW8
    where they introduced paramatised commands to help prevent SQL injection.

    Dreamweaver users have been screaming out for improved server side code
    support for many years. Due to the poor support of server side code, and
    regular browsing of this newsgroup, I have improved my asp/vbscript
    coding abilities, but still use Dreamweaver to "design" my web applications.

    Steve
     
    Dooza, Jul 24, 2008
    #17
  18. Old Pedant Guest

    "Dooza" wrote:
    > Dreamweaver users have been screaming out for improved server side code
    > support for many years. Due to the poor support of server side code, and
    > regular browsing of this newsgroup, I have improved my asp/vbscript
    > coding abilities, but still use Dreamweaver to "design" my web applications.


    A smart person, you are. The dozen or so people who I've taken "in hand" do
    pretty much the same thing: Do the HTML design with DW but then do all the
    ASP coding (or at least much of it) by hand.

    If nothing else, the amount of "kruft" that you get rid of that way makes
    your pages run twice as fast.

    [I don't do much HTML "design", and what I do is done with notepad or VS
    2003, even when coding in ASP. I'm lucky in that I get to be the "backend"
    to designers' front-ends.]
     
    Old Pedant, Jul 24, 2008
    #18
  19. Dooza Guest

    Old Pedant wrote:
    >
    > "Dooza" wrote:
    >> Dreamweaver users have been screaming out for improved server side code
    >> support for many years. Due to the poor support of server side code, and
    >> regular browsing of this newsgroup, I have improved my asp/vbscript
    >> coding abilities, but still use Dreamweaver to "design" my web applications.

    >
    > A smart person, you are. The dozen or so people who I've taken "in hand" do
    > pretty much the same thing: Do the HTML design with DW but then do all the
    > ASP coding (or at least much of it) by hand.


    I recently found out that Stored Procedures can output more than 1
    recordset, and that you can easily step to the next one in ASP/VBScript.
    This is something Dreamweaver will never do, yet it can save you
    making several trips to the database. Since I do everything I can with
    Stored Procedures to keep my database as secure as possible, this is a
    great trick to use.

    > If nothing else, the amount of "kruft" that you get rid of that way makes
    > your pages run twice as fast.
    >
    > [I don't do much HTML "design", and what I do is done with notepad or VS
    > 2003, even when coding in ASP. I'm lucky in that I get to be the "backend"
    > to designers' front-ends.]


    I have always been a visual designer. One of my early jobs in tech
    support was for HoTMetaL Pro. The only way to support a package like
    that was to learn what it was trying to do. I soon found it was bloody
    awful at making good code! So I bought a book, Web Master in a Nutshell,
    and started to dabble. When I found Dreamweaver 2 it appeared to make
    better code, and let me be more creative whilst still letting me take
    control of the code... haven't looked back since then, and have made a
    nice living from it so far, always learning on the way.

    Steve
     
    Dooza, Jul 25, 2008
    #19
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