Example produces infinite loop - my solution fails

[Dr J R Stockton]

In comp.lang.javascript message <[email protected]
oglegroups.com>, Tue, 3 Jul 2007 17:50:59, Richard <RichardDummyMailbox5
(e-mail address removed)> posted:

What does "over-quote" mean in the context of my submissions?

As already advised, read the newsgroup FAQ. AIUI, you are old enough to
have learned that you don't know everything.

In my experience, newsgroups that care about unique "handles" have
declined to allow me to use a pre-existing handle when I subscribed.
This newsgroup declined to indicate that a subscriber "Richard"
existed, so this duplication doesn't seem to matter. Besides, with
thousands of subscribers, it appears to mre unlikely that the other
"Richard" and I will post to the same thread. Don't you agree?

No; he usually posts assiduously. He too, of course, should be using a
more indicative signature, for reasons in, IIRC, FYI28/RFC1855.

 

[Evertjan.]

Richard wrote on 04 jul 2007 in comp.lang.javascript:

Yes. I Googled for "interunderposting" and got no hits.

That could very well be as I just invented the word.

In fact I wanted to change "underposting" to "interposting",
and made the above mistake. ;-(

[please do not quote signatures]

In my previous post, I "underposted," as advocated by several people
on this thread. That is, in Google Groups, I clicked the "More
options" link which Google supplies along with the content of your
post. In the resulting menu, I clicked the "Reply" link. That
opened a new message pane containing your message decorated with
leading ">" signs.

I added my response below the decorated text, expecting Google to

Sorry, I won't try Google groups ...

merely present a hyperlink to your message. As I see, GG did *not*
condense your message. Looking back, I see that if I underpost, then
GG does present a "- Show quoted text -" hyperlink which toggles the
content of the message to which I'm complying.

Google groups is NOT a good way to interact with usenet.

Use a dedicated news reader, usenet is twice as old as the web, and has
pro and cons that cannot be accomodated by a web interface as well as by
a dedicated news reader on a news server.

However, if I bottom post, then GG puts only a couple of lines after
my new content:

=== Example


- Show quoted text -
=== End of example

A good example is the thread

Sorry, I won't try Google groups ...

http://groups.google.com/group/DotNetDevelopment/browse_frm/thread/80b7
9aa5d8bf8b1e It shows that the growing thread is preserved with each
subsequent post. But that growing thread is unobtrusive, because
it's represented by an Ajax type link. Pretty neat, eh?

Sorry, I won't try Google groups, it gives me headaches, the only thing
that is good about gg, is the usenet archive function gg has taken over
from deja news some years ago.

Using GG you get into the habits of thinking a NG is used by the mayority
in that perverted way, which luckily it is not.

Hopefully, this post of mine will work that way, too. What do you
think?

So the best advice is: Do not use Google groups if you want to use usenet
on a regular base.

 

[Richard Cornford]

Sorry, Evertjan,

I meant to say I was responding "Yes." to the following line.


I trust you were not confused by my sloppiness, for which I
apologize.

Are you deliberately taking the pi**? (That, or the suspicion of that,
will not be popular.)

In proper interleaved posting you would have quoted the line that came
before "Do you mean a web page" (with its set of indented quote
markers), then quoted that line, and then written "Yes." underneath.
Everyone who read that would have known the original statement, the
question asked about it, and the answer given (the response and all of
the relevant context for that response). We have good reasons for doing
things this way, and it is not at all difficult and it works well to
convey a conversational exchange on Usenet.

It has been at least a day since it was suggested, so have your read the
group's FAQ yet? (It is a web page.)

Richard.

 

[RichardL]

Yeah, no matter what, you *need* to drop Google Groups. Outlook Express
in this case is better than nothing (GG).



That in itself is a religious war. I personally preferred Outlook
Express to Google Groups and used it quite religiously for years. There
is nothing wrong with it, unless you consider it not having a particular
feature a reason to abandon it entirely.

The only thing of real value is Blinky's site as the shark is a very
active and enthusiastic usenet activist.


Um... exactly. See, again, what Richard (rf) said. Google Groups
allows a horde of non-regular members to come here and post utter
nonsense like the MI5 bastard (OK, that's not GG, but just as bad), or
random students asking, "How pop teh windoze, to make eazy my pictarz,
view?" which only bother the majority of "us."


You'll do wise to remember that no one's opinion matters worth a crap in
this group. However, there are those that I personally find invaluable
and do respect their input.

What I am trying to say more clearly is that, don't get too hung up on
what others say (although the majority have been correct and posted sage
advice). Just figure out the rules and be done.

Point is, you need to go with the flow, that's all this comes down. So
learn the few little quirks of this group and *poof*, problems solved.







I am not even going to bother citing every mistake you have made in
regards to trimming quotes (which I for the most part do not subscribe
to, unless my response has *ABSOLUTELY* nothing to do with the rest),
bottom-posting, snipping signatures, snipping excessive or nonsensical
code, et cetera.

Instead, I invite you to go to a group like alt.test (unless someone can
suggest a better group for learning how to post properly), and start a
thread. If you do this, I will gladly interact with your post and show
you what to do or not to do.

However, you must first get a dedicated newsreader, in my opinion, for
this to be fruitful.

Hi Lost,

Thanks for your offer, but Google Groups offers me something no
dedicated Newsreader does: it automatically gives me a list of all
the threads I've flagged is "interesting", sorted from most-recently-
updated to least, all regardless of newsgroup.

I tend to be interested in several topics which are hosted in
different newsgroups. My topics de jure fluctuate over time. GG helps
me to reply promptly to responses to any of them.

I've been on perhaps two dozen newsgroups since I started using GG
instead of OE. This is the first NG that's gotten bent out of shape
about my posts.

I accept that people have strong opinions about a lot of stuff. Some
have said they ignore any posts from people whose address indicates
they posted from GG. I accept that. Giving up GG is too high a price
for me to gain their acceptance.

Again, I appreciate the spirit of your offer. I respectfully decline.

Best wishes,
Richard