perl cgi problem

Discussion in 'Perl Misc' started by pfancy, Jul 8, 2004.

  1. pfancy

    pfancy Guest

    Ok. since this is perl and it deals with cgi i was hoping someone can help
    me out. I am working on a guest book and I get to the addguest part. and
    when i click on the submit button to add it to the cgi part it says it can
    not find my guestbook.cgi file. i have that file in my cgi-bin folder what
    is up
    It may because i don't have a sendmail thing. what can you tell me and am i
    not adding something that needs to be there?



    #!/usr/local/bin/perl
    ############################################################################
    ##
    # Guestbook Version 2.3.1
    #
    # Copyright 1996 Matt Wright
    #
    # Created 4/21/95 Last Modified 10/29/95
    #
    # Scripts Archive at: http://www.scriptarchive.com/
    #
    ############################################################################
    ##
    # COPYRIGHT NOTICE
    #
    # Copyright 1996 Matthew M. Wright All Rights Reserved.
    #
    #
    #
    # Guestbook may be used and modified free of charge by anyone so long as
    #
    # this copyright notice and the comments above remain intact. By using this
    #
    # code you agree to indemnify Matthew M. Wright from any liability that
    #
    # might arise from it's use.
    #
    #
    #
    # Selling the code for this program without prior written consent is
    #
    # expressly forbidden. In other words, please ask first before you try and
    #
    # make money off of my program.
    #
    #
    #
    # Obtain permission before redistributing this software over the Internet or
    #
    # in any other medium. In all cases copyright and header must remain
    intact.#
    ############################################################################
    ##
    # Set Variables

    $guestbookurl = "http://www.yourhost.com/guestbook/guestbook.html";
    $guestbookreal = "/home/yourhostt/guestbook/guestbook.html";
    $guestlog = "http://www.yourhost.com/guestbook/guestlog.html";
    $cgiurl = "http://www.yourhost.com/guestbook/cgi-bin/guestbook.pl";
    $date_command = "/usr/bin/date";

    # Set Your Options:
    $mail = 0; # 1 = Yes; 0 = No
    $uselog = 1; # 1 = Yes; 0 = No
    $linkmail = 1; # 1 = Yes; 0 = No
    $separator = 1; # 1 = <hr>; 0 = <p>
    $redirection = 0; # 1 = Yes; 0 = No
    $entry_order = 1; # 1 = Newest entries added first;
    # 0 = Newest Entries added last.
    $remote_mail = 0; # 1 = Yes; 0 = No
    $allow_html = 1; # 1 = Yes; 0 = No
    $line_breaks = 0; # 1 = Yes; 0 = No

    # If you answered 1 to $mail or $remote_mail you will need to fill out
    # these variables below:
    $mailprog = '/usr/lib/sendmail';
    $recipient = '';

    # Done
    ############################################################################
    ##

    # Get the Date for Entry
    $date = `$date_command +"%A, %B %d, %Y at %T (%Z)"`; chop($date);
    $shortdate = `$date_command +"%D %T %Z"`; chop($shortdate);

    # Get the input
    read(STDIN, $buffer, $ENV{'CONTENT_LENGTH'});

    # Split the name-value pairs
    @pairs = split(/&/, $buffer);

    foreach $pair (@pairs) {
    ($name, $value) = split(/=/, $pair);

    # Un-Webify plus signs and %-encoding
    $value =~ tr/+/ /;
    $value =~ s/%([a-fA-F0-9][a-fA-F0-9])/pack("C", hex($1))/eg;
    $value =~ s/<!--(.|\n)*-->//g;

    if ($allow_html != 1) {
    $value =~ s/<([^>]|\n)*>//g;
    }

    $FORM{$name} = $value;
    }

    # Print the Blank Response Subroutines
    &no_comments unless $FORM{'comments'};
    &no_name unless $FORM{'realname'};

    # Begin the Editing of the Guestbook File
    open (FILE,"$guestbookreal") || die "Can't Open $guestbookreal: $!\n";
    @LINES=<FILE>;
    close(FILE);
    $SIZE=@LINES;

    # Open Link File to Output
    open (GUEST,">$guestbookreal") || die "Can't Open $guestbookreal: $!\n";

    for ($i=0;$i<=$SIZE;$i++) {
    $_=$LINES[$i];
    if (/<!--begin-->/) {

    if ($entry_order eq '1') {
    print GUEST "<!--begin-->\n";
    }

    if ($line_breaks == 1) {
    $FORM{'comments'} =~ s/\cM\n/<br>\n/g;
    }

    print GUEST "<b>$FORM{'comments'}</b><br>\n";

    if ($FORM{'url'}) {
    print GUEST "<a href=\"$FORM{'url'}\">$FORM{'realname'}</a>";
    }
    else {
    print GUEST "$FORM{'realname'}";
    }

    if ( $FORM{'username'} ){
    if ($linkmail eq '1') {
    print GUEST " \&lt;<a href=\"mailto:$FORM{'username'}\">";
    print GUEST "$FORM{'username'}</a>\&gt;";
    }
    else {
    print GUEST " &lt;$FORM{'username'}&gt;";
    }
    }

    print GUEST "<br>\n";

    if ( $FORM{'city'} ){
    print GUEST "$FORM{'city'},";
    }

    if ( $FORM{'state'} ){
    print GUEST " $FORM{'state'}";
    }

    if ( $FORM{'country'} ){
    print GUEST " $FORM{'country'}";
    }

    if ($separator eq '1') {
    print GUEST " - $date<hr>\n\n";
    }
    else {
    print GUEST " - $date<p>\n\n";
    }

    if ($entry_order eq '0') {
    print GUEST "<!--begin-->\n";
    }

    }
    else {
    print GUEST $_;
    }
    }

    close (GUEST);

    # Log The Entry

    if ($uselog eq '1') {
    &log('entry');
    }


    #########
    # Options

    # Mail Option
    if ($mail eq '1') {
    open (MAIL, "|$mailprog $recipient") || die "Can't open $mailprog!\n";

    print MAIL "Reply-to: $FORM{'username'} ($FORM{'realname'})\n";
    print MAIL "From: $FORM{'username'} ($FORM{'realname'})\n";
    print MAIL "Subject: Entry to Guestbook\n\n";
    print MAIL "You have a new entry in your guestbook:\n\n";
    print MAIL "------------------------------------------------------\n";
    print MAIL "$FORM{'comments'}\n";
    print MAIL "$FORM{'realname'}";

    if ( $FORM{'username'} ){
    print MAIL " <$FORM{'username'}>";
    }

    print MAIL "\n";

    if ( $FORM{'city'} ){
    print MAIL "$FORM{'city'},";
    }

    if ( $FORM{'state'} ){
    print MAIL " $FORM{'state'}";
    }

    if ( $FORM{'country'} ){
    print MAIL " $FORM{'country'}";
    }

    print MAIL " - $date\n";
    print MAIL "------------------------------------------------------\n";

    close (MAIL);
    }

    if ($remote_mail eq '1' && $FORM{'username'}) {
    open (MAIL, "|$mailprog -t") || die "Can't open $mailprog!\n";

    print MAIL "To: $FORM{'username'}\n";
    print MAIL "From: $recipient\n";
    print MAIL "Subject: Entry to Guestbook\n\n";
    print MAIL "Thank you for adding to my guestbook.\n\n";
    print MAIL "------------------------------------------------------\n";
    print MAIL "$FORM{'comments'}\n";
    print MAIL "$FORM{'realname'}";

    if ( $FORM{'username'} ){
    print MAIL " <$FORM{'username'}>";
    }

    print MAIL "\n";

    if ( $FORM{'city'} ){
    print MAIL "$FORM{'city'},";
    }

    if ( $FORM{'state'} ){
    print MAIL " $FORM{'state'}";
    }

    if ( $FORM{'country'} ){
    print MAIL " $FORM{'country'}";
    }

    print MAIL " - $date\n";
    print MAIL "------------------------------------------------------\n";

    close (MAIL);
    }

    # Print Out Initial Output Location Heading
    if ($redirection eq '1') {
    print "Location: $guestbookurl\n\n";
    }
    else {
    &no_redirection;
    }

    #######################
    # Subroutines

    sub no_comments {
    print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
    print "<html><head><title>No Comments</title></head>\n";
    print "<body><h1>Your Comments appear to be blank</h1>\n";
    print "The comment section in the guestbook fillout form appears\n";
    print "to be blank and therefore the Guestbook Addition was not\n";
    print "added. Please enter your comments below.<p>\n";
    print "<form method=POST action=\"$cgiurl\">\n";
    print "Your Name:<input type=text name=\"realname\" size=30 ";
    print "value=\"$FORM{'realname'}\"><br>\n";
    print "E-Mail: <input type=text name=\"username\"";
    print "value=\"$FORM{'username'}\" size=40><br>\n";
    print "City: <input type=text name=\"city\" value=\"$FORM{'city'}\" ";
    print "size=15>, State: <input type=text name=\"state\" ";
    print "value=\"$FORM{'state'}\" size=15> Country: <input type=text ";
    print "name=\"country\" value=\"$FORM{'country'}\" size=15><p>\n";
    print "Comments:<br>\n";
    print "<textarea name=\"comments\" COLS=60 ROWS=4></textarea><p>\n";
    print "<input type=submit> * <input type=reset></form><hr>\n";
    print "Return to the <a href=\"$guestbookurl\">Guestbook</a>.";
    print "\n</body></html>\n";

    # Log The Error
    if ($uselog eq '1') {
    &log('no_comments');
    }

    exit;
    }

    sub no_name {
    print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
    print "<html><head><title>No Name</title></head>\n";
    print "<body><h1>Your Name appears to be blank</h1>\n";
    print "The Name Section in the guestbook fillout form appears to\n";
    print "be blank and therefore your entry to the guestbook was not\n";
    print "added. Please add your name in the blank below.<p>\n";
    print "<form method=POST action=\"$cgiurl\">\n";
    print "Your Name:<input type=text name=\"realname\" size=30><br>\n";
    print "E-Mail: <input type=text name=\"username\"";
    print " value=\"$FORM{'username'}\" size=40><br>\n";
    print "City: <input type=text name=\"city\" value=\"$FORM{'city'}\" ";
    print "size=15>, State: <input type=text name=\"state\" ";
    print "value=\"$FORM{'state'}\" size=2> Country: <input type=text ";
    print "value=USA name=\"country\" value=\"$FORM{'country'}\" ";
    print "size=15><p>\n";
    print "Comments have been retained.<p>\n";
    print "<input type=hidden name=\"comments\" ";
    print "value=\"$FORM{'comments'}\">\n";
    print "<input type=submit> * <input type=reset><hr>\n";
    print "Return to the <a href=\"$guestbookurl\">Guestbook</a>.";
    print "\n</body></html>\n";

    # Log The Error
    if ($uselog eq '1') {
    &log('no_name');
    }

    exit;
    }

    # Log the Entry or Error
    sub log {
    $log_type = $_[0];
    open (LOG, ">>$guestlog");
    if ($log_type eq 'entry') {
    print LOG "$ENV{'REMOTE_HOST'} - [$shortdate]<br>\n";
    }
    elsif ($log_type eq 'no_name') {
    print LOG "$ENV{'REMOTE_HOST'} - [$shortdate] - ERR: No Name<br>\n";
    }
    elsif ($log_type eq 'no_comments') {
    print LOG "$ENV{'REMOTE_HOST'} - [$shortdate] - ERR: No ";
    print LOG "Comments<br>\n";
    }
    }

    # Redirection Option
    sub no_redirection {

    # Print Beginning of HTML
    print "Content-Type: text/html\n\n";
    print "<html><head><title>Thank You</title></head>\n";
    print "<body><h1>Thank You For Signing The Guestbook</h1>\n";

    # Print Response
    print "Thank you for filling in the guestbook. Your entry has\n";
    print "been added to the guestbook.<hr>\n";
    print "Here is what you submitted:<p>\n";
    print "<b>$FORM{'comments'}</b><br>\n";

    if ($FORM{'url'}) {
    print "<a href=\"$FORM{'url'}\">$FORM{'realname'}</a>";
    }
    else {
    print "$FORM{'realname'}";
    }

    if ( $FORM{'username'} ){
    if ($linkmail eq '1') {
    print " &lt;<a href=\"mailto:$FORM{'username'}\">";
    print "$FORM{'username'}</a>&gt;";
    }
    else {
    print " &lt;$FORM{'username'}&gt;";
    }
    }

    print "<br>\n";

    if ( $FORM{'city'} ){
    print "$FORM{'city'},";
    }

    if ( $FORM{'state'} ){
    print " $FORM{'state'}";
    }

    if ( $FORM{'country'} ){
    print " $FORM{'country'}";
    }

    print " - $date<p>\n";

    # Print End of HTML
    print "<hr>\n";
    print "<a href=\"$guestbookurl\">Back to the Guestbook</a>\n";
    print "- You may need to reload it when you get there to see your\n";
    print "entry.\n";
    print "</body></html>\n";

    exit;
    }
     
    pfancy, Jul 8, 2004
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  2. pfancy

    Paul Lalli Guest

    On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, pfancy wrote:

    > Ok. since this is perl and it deals with cgi i was hoping someone can help
    > me out. I am working on a guest book and I get to the addguest part. and
    > when i click on the submit button to add it to the cgi part it says it can
    > not find my guestbook.cgi file. i have that file in my cgi-bin folder what
    > is up
    > It may because i don't have a sendmail thing. what can you tell me and am i
    > not adding something that needs to be there?


    There's no way I'm going to look through this massive amounts of code to
    find a possible error. However . . . .

    >
    > $guestbookurl = "http://www.yourhost.com/guestbook/guestbook.html";
    > $guestbookreal = "/home/yourhostt/guestbook/guestbook.html";

    ^^^^^
    Is that intentional? everywhere else, it says 'yourhost', but here it's
    'yourhostt'. Is it possible that's the file it can't find?

    > $guestlog = "http://www.yourhost.com/guestbook/guestlog.html";
    > $cgiurl = "http://www.yourhost.com/guestbook/cgi-bin/guestbook.pl";

    ^^^^

    You said it can't find your guestbook.cgi file, but you're posting to
    a guestbook.pl file. Is this possibly the cause of your error?

    Paul Lalli

    <snipped a LOT of lines>
     
    Paul Lalli, Jul 8, 2004
    #2
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  3. pfancy

    pfancy Guest

    "Paul Lalli" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, pfancy wrote:
    >
    > > Ok. since this is perl and it deals with cgi i was hoping someone can

    help
    > > me out. I am working on a guest book and I get to the addguest part.

    and
    > > when i click on the submit button to add it to the cgi part it says it

    can
    > > not find my guestbook.cgi file. i have that file in my cgi-bin folder

    what
    > > is up
    > > It may because i don't have a sendmail thing. what can you tell me and

    am i
    > > not adding something that needs to be there?

    >
    > There's no way I'm going to look through this massive amounts of code to
    > find a possible error. However . . . .
    >
    > >
    > > $guestbookurl = "http://www.yourhost.com/guestbook/guestbook.html";
    > > $guestbookreal = "/home/yourhostt/guestbook/guestbook.html";

    > ^^^^^
    > Is that intentional? everywhere else, it says 'yourhost', but here it's
    > 'yourhostt'. Is it possible that's the file it can't find?
    >
    > > $guestlog = "http://www.yourhost.com/guestbook/guestlog.html";
    > > $cgiurl = "http://www.yourhost.com/guestbook/cgi-bin/guestbook.pl";

    > ^^^^
    >
    > You said it can't find your guestbook.cgi file, but you're posting to
    > a guestbook.pl file. Is this possibly the cause of your error?
    >
    > Paul Lalli
    >
    > <snipped a LOT of lines>
    > > $guestbookreal = "/home/yourhostt/guestbook/guestbook.html";

    > ^^^^^


    No typo. thanks for noticing. that could be it. i going to look at that.
    that could be it. Thanks a million.
     
    pfancy, Jul 8, 2004
    #3
  4. pfancy wrote:
    > I am working on a guest book ...


    Are you? To me it appears as if you are just configuring Matt's
    guestbook script. Even if it makes me nostalgic (modifying that script
    was my first acquaintance with Perl), you'd better pick another
    script, such as the guestbook script here, instead:

    http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/scripts.shtml

    > It may because i don't have a sendmail thing.


    What would the "sendmail thing" have to do with a guestbook script?

    --
    Gunnar Hjalmarsson
    Email: http://www.gunnar.cc/cgi-bin/contact.pl
     
    Gunnar Hjalmarsson, Jul 8, 2004
    #4
  5. pfancy

    pfancy Guest

    "Paul Lalli" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, pfancy wrote:
    >
    > > Ok. since this is perl and it deals with cgi i was hoping someone can

    help
    > > me out. I am working on a guest book and I get to the addguest part.

    and
    > > when i click on the submit button to add it to the cgi part it says it

    can
    > > not find my guestbook.cgi file. i have that file in my cgi-bin folder

    what
    > > is up
    > > It may because i don't have a sendmail thing. what can you tell me and

    am i
    > > not adding something that needs to be there?

    >
    > There's no way I'm going to look through this massive amounts of code to
    > find a possible error. However . . . .
    >
    > >
    > > $guestbookurl = "http://www.yourhost.com/guestbook/guestbook.html";
    > > $guestbookreal = "/home/yourhostt/guestbook/guestbook.html";

    > ^^^^^
    > Is that intentional? everywhere else, it says 'yourhost', but here it's
    > 'yourhostt'. Is it possible that's the file it can't find?
    >
    > > $guestlog = "http://www.yourhost.com/guestbook/guestlog.html";
    > > $cgiurl = "http://www.yourhost.com/guestbook/cgi-bin/guestbook.pl";

    > ^^^^
    >
    > You said it can't find your guestbook.cgi file, but you're posting to
    > a guestbook.pl file. Is this possibly the cause of your error?
    >
    > Paul Lalli
    > <snipped a LOT of lines>


    I did look into that. i did notice i wrote guestbook.cgi i have been so
    frustrated in trying to get it figured out. I'm sorry. i wrote the wrong
    one done. i looked in to. i did mean .pl though. instead of .cgi. I'm sorr
    for such a long code. but i did not know what else to do. but it gives me
    the 404 error. I'm beginning to think that i have some code typed wrong
    because it looks for the guestbook.pl file and says it can't find it, it
    told me to set the chmod for 755 and i did. but it claims it can't find the
    file but i have placed the guestbook.pl into the cgi bin.
     
    pfancy, Jul 8, 2004
    #5
  6. pfancy

    pfancy Guest


    > I did look into that. i did notice i wrote guestbook.cgi i have been so
    > frustrated in trying to get it figured out. I'm sorry. i wrote the

    wrong
    > one done. i looked in to. i did mean .pl though. instead of .cgi. I'm

    sorr
    > for such a long code. but i did not know what else to do. but it gives

    me
    > the 404 error. I'm beginning to think that i have some code typed wrong
    > because it looks for the guestbook.pl file and says it can't find it, it
    > told me to set the chmod for 755 and i did. but it claims it can't find

    the
    > file but i have placed the guestbook.pl into the cgi bin.



    here is the link from where i found that guestbook at
    http://www.scriptarchive.com/

    >
    >
     
    pfancy, Jul 8, 2004
    #6
  7. pfancy

    pfancy Guest

    "pfancy" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > > I did look into that. i did notice i wrote guestbook.cgi i have been so
    > > frustrated in trying to get it figured out. I'm sorry. i wrote the

    > wrong
    > > one done. i looked in to. i did mean .pl though. instead of .cgi. I'm

    > sorr
    > > for such a long code. but i did not know what else to do. but it gives

    > me
    > > the 404 error. I'm beginning to think that i have some code typed wrong
    > > because it looks for the guestbook.pl file and says it can't find it,

    it
    > > told me to set the chmod for 755 and i did. but it claims it can't find

    > the
    > > file but i have placed the guestbook.pl into the cgi bin.

    >
    >
    > here is the link from where i found that guestbook at
    > http://www.scriptarchive.com/
    >
    > >
    > >

    > the link you guys gave me. Unless my download program did not consider it

    a different file it look like it is the same one i have. is there a place
    where we can show what the program will look like?
    >
     
    pfancy, Jul 8, 2004
    #7
  8. "pfancy" <> writes:
    > I'm sorr for such a long code. but i did not know what else to do.
    > but it gives me the 404 error.


    What gives you which 404 error?

    > I'm beginning to think that i have
    > some code typed wrong because it looks for the guestbook.pl file and
    > says it can't find it,


    You have such a confusion of pronouns here, I can't even begin to
    figure out what you're talking about. 'it' seems to mean at least
    three things in that one sentence alone.

    > it told me to set the chmod for 755 and i did. but it claims it
    > can't find the file but i have placed the guestbook.pl into the cgi
    > bin.


    Fundamentally, you have three problems:

    1) You're using Matt Wright's scripts, instead of the superior
    replacements at http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/.

    2) You're not good at partitioning problems-- that's not a crime, and
    I'm not insulting you by saying it, but it's a skill you'll need to
    develop. Partitioning a problem is where you figure out if the
    problem is caused by the web server's set up, the script's logic,
    or the script's configuration. In your case, I imagine it's a
    mixture of the three, but because you don't seem to understand the
    distinctions yourself, it's hard to say for sure.

    3) You are either unfamiliar with your web host's configuration, or
    your script's setup. If it's the first, then you need to talk to
    your web hosting provider. If the second, you need to talk to
    whoever supports your scripts.

    This is another advantage of using the NMS scripts-- Matt no longer
    supports his code, if he ever did, and there is a mailing list to
    help you with problems running the NMS code.

    -=Eric
    --
    Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million
    typewriters, and Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare.
    -- Blair Houghton.
     
    Eric Schwartz, Jul 9, 2004
    #8
  9. pfancy

    pfancy Guest

    "Eric Schwartz" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > "pfancy" <> writes:
    > > I'm sorr for such a long code. but i did not know what else to do.
    > > but it gives me the 404 error.

    >
    > What gives you which 404 error?
    >
    > > I'm beginning to think that i have
    > > some code typed wrong because it looks for the guestbook.pl file and
    > > says it can't find it,

    >
    > You have such a confusion of pronouns here, I can't even begin to
    > figure out what you're talking about. 'it' seems to mean at least
    > three things in that one sentence alone.
    >
    > > it told me to set the chmod for 755 and i did. but it claims it
    > > can't find the file but i have placed the guestbook.pl into the cgi
    > > bin.

    >
    > Fundamentally, you have three problems:
    >
    > 1) You're using Matt Wright's scripts, instead of the superior
    > replacements at http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/.
    >
    > 2) You're not good at partitioning problems-- that's not a crime, and
    > I'm not insulting you by saying it, but it's a skill you'll need to
    > develop. Partitioning a problem is where you figure out if the
    > problem is caused by the web server's set up, the script's logic,
    > or the script's configuration. In your case, I imagine it's a
    > mixture of the three, but because you don't seem to understand the
    > distinctions yourself, it's hard to say for sure.
    >
    > 3) You are either unfamiliar with your web host's configuration, or
    > your script's setup. If it's the first, then you need to talk to
    > your web hosting provider. If the second, you need to talk to
    > whoever supports your scripts.
    >
    > This is another advantage of using the NMS scripts-- Matt no longer
    > supports his code, if he ever did, and there is a mailing list to
    > help you with problems running the NMS code.
    >
    > -=Eric
    > --
    > Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million
    > typewriters, and Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare.
    > -- Blair Houghton.


    Thats cool. I agree with you. I know there is a lot that i need to learn.
    I have downloaded the script from the nms site. The guest book is the same
    as the one i got but better right.
     
    pfancy, Jul 9, 2004
    #9
  10. Gunnar Hjalmarsson <> wrote:
    > pfancy wrote:
    >> It may because i don't have a sendmail thing.

    >
    > What would the "sendmail thing" have to do with a guestbook script?
    >


    The 'guestbook' script (both the NMS and the original MSA one) have a
    facility to send a message to someone when something was added to the
    guestbook. I seem to recall the MSA one had the additional feature of
    acting as an anonymous mail proxy for spammers.

    /J\
     
    Jonathan Stowe, Jul 9, 2004
    #10
  11. Jonathan Stowe wrote:
    > Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
    >> pfancy wrote:
    >>> It may because i don't have a sendmail thing.

    >>
    >> What would the "sendmail thing" have to do with a guestbook
    >> script?

    >
    > The 'guestbook' script (both the NMS and the original MSA one) have
    > a facility to send a message to someone when something was added to
    > the guestbook.


    Aha, thanks, should have realized that.

    > I seem to recall the MSA one had the additional feature of acting
    > as an anonymous mail proxy for spammers.


    Sounds plausible. Maybe an imported feature from Matt's formmail? :)

    --
    Gunnar Hjalmarsson
    Email: http://www.gunnar.cc/cgi-bin/contact.pl
     
    Gunnar Hjalmarsson, Jul 9, 2004
    #11
  12. pfancy

    Joe Smith Guest

    Purl Gurl wrote:

    > NMS scripts are truly no more secure, no less buggy, than
    > are Matt Wright's scripts.


    The NMS scripts do more checking of user input, and avoid the
    blatant security holes found in many of Matt Wright's scripts.

    Back in 1994, when everybody was just starting to learn how
    to use perl for CGI, Matt's scripts looked pretty nifty.
    During the last 10 years, webmaster's have learned to be
    justifiably paranoid about possible exploits. Matt's scripts
    have not been updated properly.

    -Joe
     
    Joe Smith, Jul 9, 2004
    #12
  13. pfancy

    pfancy Guest

    "Joe Smith" <> wrote in message
    news:zeBHc.41234$JR4.35686@attbi_s54...
    > Purl Gurl wrote:
    >
    > > NMS scripts are truly no more secure, no less buggy, than
    > > are Matt Wright's scripts.

    >
    > The NMS scripts do more checking of user input, and avoid the
    > blatant security holes found in many of Matt Wright's scripts.
    >
    > Back in 1994, when everybody was just starting to learn how
    > to use perl for CGI, Matt's scripts looked pretty nifty.
    > During the last 10 years, webmaster's have learned to be
    > justifiably paranoid about possible exploits. Matt's scripts
    > have not been updated properly.
    >
    > -Joe



    that is interesting. Nobody is perfect. but i find anyone to come up with a
    program or cool stuff for the web pretty smart. I've yet to get that far.
    but will try to learn what i can. thanks for your support.
     
    pfancy, Jul 10, 2004
    #13
  14. pfancy

    Dave Cross Guest

    On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 09:35:56 -0700, Purl Gurl wrote:

    > You might enjoy testing the "Not Matt's Scripts" for date printing.
    > Those NMS scripts I have tested, a few only, cannot correctly
    > produce a date / time stamp on some platforms because of use
    > of buggy POSIX. Major mistake, that.
    >
    > I presented this to NMS years back. They promptly denied any
    > problem. Their denial, however, did not cause their scripts to
    > suddenly start printing a date / time stamps.


    Actually I said something along the lines of "that's interesting, please
    tell me more about the platform that you are running it on and we'll
    investigate further". You have never responded to that request. The offer
    still stands tho'.

    You are, however, the only person to have ever reported that bug and we've
    not been able to reproduce it.

    > NMS scripts are truly no more secure, no less buggy, than
    > are Matt Wright's scripts.


    If you care to explain what you mean by this claim then we can discuss it.
    You are the only person who makes this claim.

    > They are less efficient, though.


    I assume this is based on our use of CGI.pm in preference to Matt's buggy
    CGI parameter parsing code.

    > A reader should be cautioned I do hold a bad attitude about
    > Not Matt's Scripts because when they first came online they
    > spammed newsgroups with advertisements which contained
    > personal insults directed at Matt Wright. My opinions and
    > comments are inherently biased no matter how hard I try to
    > be fair and open minded.


    I posted announcements in two relevant newsgroups. This is a matter of
    public record. Anyone can check the posts in Google. I don't know why you
    persist in exaggerating the incident.

    > Questioned about their former name, "Not Matts Scripts," and
    > their use of personal insults directed at Matt, again adamant
    > denial. However, their homepage was suddenly edited to change
    > their name and to remove insults directed at Matt. Their use
    > of insults in advertisements, and spamming of newsgroups,
    > also came to an abrupt halt, leading to a historical event,
    > an event of the one and only time Alan Flavell agreed with me.


    Well I don't remember ever denying it, but I do remember toning down the
    text on our web site. Again this is all a matter of public record and I'm
    happy to supply references if anyone is interested.

    > I am sure there are some good scripts at NMS. Chances are
    > those boys corrected mistakes I highlighted, although they
    > denied the very existence of those mistakes.


    I don't think we've ever fixed a bug that you have pointed out, because we
    have never got a sensible bug report from you.

    > Personally, I would not rate NMS scripts as being any better
    > nor any worse than Matt's scripts. Only change I found was
    > coding techniques sans any change in quality.


    And another claim that is made by no-one but you :)

    > Matt, however, is a gracious gentleman.


    He certainly seems to like us more than you do.

    http://scriptarchive.com/nms.html

    Dave...
     
    Dave Cross, Jul 10, 2004
    #14
  15. pfancy

    pfancy Guest


    > Actually I said something along the lines of "that's interesting, please
    > tell me more about the platform that you are running it on and we'll
    > investigate further". You have never responded to that request. The offer
    > still stands tho'.
    >



    I'm sorry. I must have missed that. I'm running windows xp home edition.
    thanks for your patients.
     
    pfancy, Jul 10, 2004
    #15
  16. pfancy

    pfancy Guest


    >
    > Pffttt... you change your story with each response.



    I'm sorry if i have. I get confused alot sometimes.
     
    pfancy, Jul 10, 2004
    #16
  17. pfancy

    pfancy Guest

    "Scott Bryce" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > pfancy wrote:
    >
    > >>Actually I said something along the lines of "that's interesting, please
    > >>tell me more about the platform that you are running it on and we'll
    > >>investigate further". You have never responded to that request. The

    offer
    > >>still stands tho'.
    > >>

    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > I'm sorry. I must have missed that. I'm running windows xp home

    edition.
    > > thanks for your patients.

    >
    >
    > Dave's comment was addressed to Purl Gurl.


    Oh. ok.
     
    pfancy, Jul 10, 2004
    #17
  18. pfancy

    Joe Smith Guest

    Purl Gurl wrote:

    > You might enjoy testing the "Not Matt's Scripts" for date printing.
    > Those NMS scripts I have tested, a few only, cannot correctly
    > produce a date / time stamp on some platforms because of use
    > of buggy POSIX. Major mistake, that.


    Which platforms have buggy POSIX?
    -Joe
     
    Joe Smith, Jul 11, 2004
    #18
  19. pfancy

    Dave Cross Guest

    On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 05:57:03 +0000, Joe Smith wrote:

    > Purl Gurl wrote:
    >
    >> You might enjoy testing the "Not Matt's Scripts" for date printing.
    >> Those NMS scripts I have tested, a few only, cannot correctly
    >> produce a date / time stamp on some platforms because of use
    >> of buggy POSIX. Major mistake, that.

    >
    > Which platforms have buggy POSIX?


    See, that's the problem. Kira won't tell us which platform she has
    problems with.

    Dave...
     
    Dave Cross, Jul 12, 2004
    #19
  20. pfancy

    Dave Cross Guest

    On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 01:01:00 -0700, Purl Gurl wrote:

    > Dave Cross wrote:
    >
    >> Purl Gurl wrote:

    >
    >> > You might enjoy testing the "Not Matt's Scripts" for date printing.

    >
    >> Actually I said something along the lines of....

    >
    >
    > Pffttt... you change your story with each response.


    Nope. That's the same thing that I've always said. If you send us a proper
    report about the problems that you have with POSIX then we'll investigate
    it. We'd prefer the report to go to , but
    posting it here will do just fine too.

    The thread we are discussing is at
    http://www.google.com/groups?th=5608ee6ce3a61aa2

    [ snip ]

    > Say, didn't Alan RFC Flavell chastise you for spamming newsgroups
    > with advertisements which contain personal insults directed
    > at Matt Wright?
    >
    > Yep, he sho nuff did, Bubba.


    Well, he didn't accuse us of spamming (that was just you) but with a few
    other folks he expressed some distaste for the content of the site. It was
    his comments and those of a handful of other people that persuaded me to
    change the wording on the site. If anyone is interested in reading the
    whole thread instead of mine and Kira's interpretation of it, then it's at
    http://www.google.com/groups?th=1ebc6c2875e80d3b

    Dave...
     
    Dave Cross, Jul 12, 2004
    #20
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