Problem with too many onmouseout events

[Jean-Guy Mouton]

Hello,

I downloaded a tooltip system where the tooltip shows at the bottom
right of the browser window when a link is hovered.

My problem is that sometimes the tooltip div comes on top of the link
and the tooltip blinks as a result because too many onmouseout event are
triggered.

How can I solve this problem?

Thank you.

 

[David Mark]

Hello,

I downloaded a tooltip system where the tooltip shows at the bottom

What tooltip system?

right of the browser window when a link is hovered.

That's an odd place for a tooltip.

My problem is that sometimes the tooltip div comes on top of the link
and the tooltip blinks as a result because too many onmouseout event are
triggered.

How can I solve this problem?

Stop using it. Try the title attribute as most browsers automatically
turn its value into a tooltip.

 

[Jean-Guy Mouton]

What tooltip system?

This one: http://home.arcor.de/xbo/title-to-note/

That's an odd place for a tooltip.

The tooltip does not hide the text, which is a better idea IMO.

Stop using it. Try the title attribute as most browsers automatically
turn its value into a tooltip.

No I want to change the default appearance of tooltips so that they do
not clash with my site colours.

 

[David Mark]

This one: http://home.arcor.de/xbo/title-to-note/





The tooltip does not hide the text, which is a better idea IMO.

Neither does a standard tooltip.

No I want to change the default appearance of tooltips so that they do
not clash with my site colours.

You don't want to use that script. It wipes out the title attributes
so that it can replace the standard tooltips with faux tooltips that
apparently don't work very well. There are accessibility issues to
consider as well. Title attributes are not there to produce
tooltips. Tooltips are just a side effect of most browsers.

Furthermore, users don't expect tooltips to match your site colors or
appear at the bottom of the page. Your best bet is to forget the
whole thing.

 

[Jean-Guy Mouton]

Neither does a standard tooltip.

Standard tooltips appear next to the link and hide the immediate textual
context, which is not a good idea.

Title attributes are not there to produce
tooltips.

Why not? See here: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#h-7.4.3

 

[David Mark]

Standard tooltips appear next to the link and hide the immediate textual
context, which is not a good idea.

I don't think it is a problem. They shouldn't be very verbose, so
they don't hide much and they go away soon enough.

Why not? See here:http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#h-7.4.3

I see it, but I fail to see what it has to do with my comment.

 

[Jean-Guy Mouton]

I see it, but I fail to see what it has to do with my comment.

It's just that you say title attributes are not there to produce
tooltips but there is nothing that says so on the W3C website.

 

[David Mark]

It's just that you say title attributes are not there to produce
tooltips but there is nothing that says so on the W3C website.

The specification describes what their purpose is, not what it is not.

 

[Jean-Guy Mouton]

The specification describes what their purpose is, not what it is not.

What they say is (excerpt): "Values of the title attribute may be
rendered by user agents in a variety of ways. For instance, visual
browsers frequently display the title as a "tool tip"."

To me, it is clear that the W3C does not say anything about what
designers must do or must not do as regards the title attribute. So
when you say "Title attributes are not there to produce tooltips" (see
above) on what ground do you base your opinion?

 

[David Mark]

What they say is (excerpt): "Values of the title attribute may be
rendered by user agents in a variety of ways. For instance, visual
browsers frequently display the title as a "tool tip"."

I know it says that. You missed my point.

To me, it is clear that the W3C does not say anything about what
designers must do or must not do as regards the title attribute. So
when you say "Title attributes are not there to produce tooltips" (see
above) on what ground do you base your opinion?

The purpose of a link's title attribute is not to produce a tooltip.
It is to provide additional information about the link's function.
Clients may display it in a tooltip, speak it aloud, display it in a
dialog that lists every link on the page, etc. The script you are
using wipes out the attribute to display it in a div, which assumes
that the purpose of the attribute was to produce a tooltip. This is a
bad assumption and the document you cite says nothing to contradict
that.