pronunciation on malloc thing

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Barry

Recently, I have to communicate C++ technical problems in English, I
found that `malloc', `strcpy', `operator()' and something like that hard
to express,

malloc => [malok] or `memory allocate'
strcpy => `S T R C P Y' or `string copy'

Is there any recommendation on the pronunciation for them?
 
I

int2str

Recently, I have to communicate C++ technical problems in English, I
found that `malloc', `strcpy', `operator()' and something like that hard
to express,

malloc => [malok] or `memory allocate'

In C++, you pronounce malloc "new" ;)
strcpy => `S T R C P Y' or `string copy'

This tends to be pronounced std::string::eek:perator=().
Though some people call it "overloaded constructor" :D
Is there any recommendation on the pronunciation for them?

Sorry, as a non-native English speaker, I'll stay away from giving
actual pronunciation help.

Cheers,
Andre
 
V

Victor Bazarov

Recently, I have to communicate C++ technical problems in English, I
found that `malloc', `strcpy', `operator()' and something like that
hard to express,

malloc => [malok] or `memory allocate'

In C++, you pronounce malloc "new" ;)
strcpy => `S T R C P Y' or `string copy'

This tends to be pronounced std::string::eek:perator=().
Though some people call it "overloaded constructor" :D
Is there any recommendation on the pronunciation for them?

Sorry, as a non-native English speaker, I'll stay away from giving
actual pronunciation help.

Not that it comes up often (after all Usenet is mostly written medium)
but it can be beneficial to have a pronunciation guide in the FAQ...

V
 
C

Colander

Not that it comes up often (after all Usenet is mostly written medium)
but it can be beneficial to have a pronunciation guide in the FAQ...

As a Dutchman I second that, the std::deque killed me more then once.
 
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Andre Kostur

These are all IMHO:


Barry said:
Recently, I have to communicate C++ technical problems in English, I
found that `malloc', `strcpy', `operator()' and something like that hard
to express,

malloc => [malok] or `memory allocate'

Yep, malok.
strcpy => `S T R C P Y' or `string copy'

stir copy
Is there any recommendation on the pronunciation for them?

And for operator(), I use "operator parens".
 
D

Default User

Andre said:
These are all IMHO:


Barry said:
Recently, I have to communicate C++ technical problems in English,
I found that `malloc', `strcpy', `operator()' and something like
that hard to express,

malloc => [malok] or `memory allocate'

Yep, malok.
Agree.
strcpy => `S T R C P Y' or `string copy'

stir copy

Disagree. I spell that out.



Brian
 
V

Victor Bazarov

Default said:
Andre said:
These are all IMHO:


Barry said:
Recently, I have to communicate C++ technical problems in English,
I found that `malloc', `strcpy', `operator()' and something like
that hard to express,

malloc => [malok] or `memory allocate'

Yep, malok.

Agree.

You mean, "may lock" or "Mmm... Alloc.." (like "Mmm Donut...")?
Disagree. I spell that out.

I agree. I spell that out as well; the farther out, the better.
What spell do you use to out it? Or do you use a hex?

V
 
S

Shadowman

Victor said:
Recently, I have to communicate C++ technical problems in English, I
found that `malloc', `strcpy', `operator()' and something like that
hard to express,

malloc => [malok] or `memory allocate'
In C++, you pronounce malloc "new" ;)
strcpy => `S T R C P Y' or `string copy'
This tends to be pronounced std::string::eek:perator=().
Though some people call it "overloaded constructor" :D
Is there any recommendation on the pronunciation for them?
Sorry, as a non-native English speaker, I'll stay away from giving
actual pronunciation help.

Not that it comes up often (after all Usenet is mostly written medium)
but it can be beneficial to have a pronunciation guide in the FAQ...

Good idea!

Then there's cout. I've heard it like "See-Out" or "Kowt."

Or char. As in char-broiled. Or 'care' as in character. Of course
these are all personal preference, I suppose.
 
D

Default User

Victor said:
You mean, "may lock" or "Mmm... Alloc.." (like "Mmm Donut...")?

*I* mean mal (rhymes with pal) ock (rhymes with tock). Actually, with
schlurring schwa sound, more like mal-uck. You can make an "uck" joke
if you like.




Brian
 
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Default User

Shadowman wrote:

Then there's cout. I've heard it like "See-Out" or "Kowt."

see-out
see-in
see-err (as in, to err is human).
Or char. As in char-broiled. Or 'care' as in character. Of course
these are all personal preference, I suppose.

I say "car". Which is perhaps odd, as it doesn't sound like it's
spelled or like an abreviation of the word I pronounce care-eckter.





Brian
 
V

Victor Bazarov

Shadowman said:
Victor said:
Recently, I have to communicate C++ technical problems in English,
I found that `malloc', `strcpy', `operator()' and something like
that hard to express,

malloc => [malok] or `memory allocate'
In C++, you pronounce malloc "new" ;)

strcpy => `S T R C P Y' or `string copy'
This tends to be pronounced std::string::eek:perator=().
Though some people call it "overloaded constructor" :D

Is there any recommendation on the pronunciation for them?
Sorry, as a non-native English speaker, I'll stay away from giving
actual pronunciation help.

Not that it comes up often (after all Usenet is mostly written
medium) but it can be beneficial to have a pronunciation guide in
the FAQ...

Good idea!

Then there's cout. I've heard it like "See-Out" or "Kowt."

Hmm.. Never heard of 'kowt' before. But maybe I just wasn't
recognizing it.
Or char. As in char-broiled. Or 'care' as in character.

I've never heard of "care". "Car", maybe, but "care"? And, yes,
'char' (as in char-broiled) is my personal choice.
Of course
these are all personal preference, I suppose.

The important thing is that those who are listenting would understand
what you try to tell them.

V
 
B

BobR

Andre Kostur said:
These are all IMHO:

Barry said:
Recently, I have to communicate C++ technical problems in English, I
found that `malloc', `strcpy', `operator()' and something like that hard
to express,

malloc => [malok] or `memory allocate'

Yep, malok.

Oh! I thought it was a mall in Orange County. :-}
stir copy

"zero(or null char)-terminated-char-array copy" (z(nc)tcacpy?)
[ With the 'nix influence, I wonder why it was not "sc". ]
And for operator(), I use "operator parens".

'function call operator'.
 
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BobR

Victor Bazarov said:
Default said:
Andre said:
These are all IMHO:

Recently, I have to communicate C++ technical problems in English,
I found that `malloc', `strcpy', `operator()' and something like
that hard to express,

malloc => [malok] or `memory allocate'

Yep, malok.

Agree.

You mean, "may lock" or "Mmm... Alloc.." (like "Mmm Donut...")?

That's it, NO more Simpsons for you!! <G>
 
B

BobR

Victor Bazarov said:
Hmm.. Never heard of 'kowt' before. But maybe I just wasn't
recognizing it.


I've never heard of "care". "Car", maybe, but "care"? And, yes,
'char' (as in char-broiled) is my personal choice.


The important thing is that those who are listenting would understand
what you try to tell them.


From:
Bjarne Stroustrup's C++ Style and Technique FAQ

How do you pronounce "cout"?
"cout" is pronounced "see-out". The "c" stands for "character" because
iostreams map values to and from byte (char) representations.
 
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Old Wolf

I don't understand what that means.

It means the pronunciation is [tSa:] and
not [ka:] . For the meaning of symbols
within square brackets, see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-SAMPA

The "t" in "tch" surprises some people who've
never thought about the sound. However if you
do think about it, you will realise that it is
the same as "sh" but with a [t] first.

In some languages that sound is in fact written
"tch", e.g. German, in which plain "ch" means [X]
 
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Old Wolf

Recently, I have to communicate C++ technical problems in English, I
found that `malloc', `strcpy', `operator()' and something like that hard
to express,

malloc => [malok] or `memory allocate'
strcpy => `S T R C P Y' or `string copy'

I say 'string copy' or 'stir kapee', which then
causes trouble when I have to say stpcpy!

Another odd one is 'wcstombs'.
 
V

Victor Bazarov

Old said:
Recently, I have to communicate C++ technical problems in English, I
found that `malloc', `strcpy', `operator()' and something like that
hard to express,

malloc => [malok] or `memory allocate'
strcpy => `S T R C P Y' or `string copy'

I say 'string copy' or 'stir kapee', which then
causes trouble when I have to say stpcpy!

Steepy kapee?
Another odd one is 'wcstombs'.

Weeks Tombs?

:)
 

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