Question: why do Opera browser parse this image not like IE and FIrefox?

M

mogwaii

The image is on the left side under the "post it" image.
It is allright in firefox and IE but in Opera is putted on the content
table, i don't get why! ?

the site is www.trnje.hr
 
A

Adrienne Boswell

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed mogwaii <[email protected]>
writing in @v19g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:

There are 39 markup errors and 2 markup warnings:
[http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.trnje.hr/]

There are numberous CSS errors as well:
[http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.trnje.hr/
&warning=1&profile=css2]

Is the background color of the page supposed to be white? It's not on my
system because I don't use the standard windows background - I use pale
blue, so the white elements stick out. You might want to think about
declaring a background color for the body element in your CSS, while
you're fixing that along with all the other errors.

Opera 11, Windows 7.
 
M

mogwaii

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed mogwaii <[email protected]>
writing in @v19g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:

There are 39 markup errors and 2 markup warnings:
[http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.trnje.hr/]

There are numberous CSS errors as well:
[http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.trnje.hr/
&warning=1&profile=css2]

Is the background color of the page supposed to be white?  It's not on my
system because I don't use the standard windows background - I use pale
blue, so the white elements stick out.  You might want to think about
declaring a background color for the body element in your CSS, while
you're fixing that along with all the other errors.

Opera 11, Windows 7.


Thanks,
nothing new.
i Did left that on purposely for two-three reasons, two of them which
are for long analyzing and the third reason is that marquee tool just
can't get bypassed in this version of scrolling without markup errors
in html coding. Though, sorry for that Girl. It can be perfect but
that's rare.
This is more like an offtopic as i didn't tried to get people
understood me quite well, i left things to other to work on if they
simply care a bit.
Every gives a bit and You have a lot of ....data, a full fridge of
groceries. yeah :)

I'm convinced it could be perfect but still, i do not have the
possibilities right now for perfectionism as i just now was repairing
my bicycle.

Could You give a screenshot prt sc of win7 and your background on
email please ?


my much beloved!
 
M

mogwaii

@Duffy

I doubt works in .css will do a bit of a change as i have always had
problems with opera...more or less....firefox and IE are more like
twin brothers.



thanks,
 
A

Adrienne Boswell

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed mogwaii <[email protected]>
writing in

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed mogwaii <[email protected]>
writing in @v19g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
The image is on the left side under the "post it" image.
It is allright in firefox and IE but in Opera is putted on the
content table, i don't get why! ?
the site iswww.trnje.hr

There are 39 markup errors and 2 markup warnings:
[http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.trnje.hr/]

There are numberous CSS errors as well:
[http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.trnje.hr/
&warning=1&profile=css2]

Is the background color of the page supposed to be white?  It's not
on my
system because I don't use the standard windows background - I use
pale blue, so the white elements stick out.  You might want to think
about declaring a background color for the body element in your CSS,
while you're fixing that along with all the other errors.

Opera 11, Windows 7.

Thanks,
nothing new.
i Did left that on purposely for two-three reasons, two of them which
are for long analyzing and the third reason is that marquee tool just
can't get bypassed in this version of scrolling without markup errors
in html coding. Though, sorry for that Girl. It can be perfect but
that's rare.

The first thing to do when a page is not rendering the way you expect it
to is to fix any markup or CSS errors. Then you can eliminate errors as
being the cause of the problem, and play around with it until it renders
the way you expect it to.
This is more like an offtopic as i didn't tried to get people
understood me quite well, i left things to other to work on if they
simply care a bit.
Every gives a bit and You have a lot of ....data, a full fridge of
groceries. yeah :)

I'm convinced it could be perfect but still, i do not have the
possibilities right now for perfectionism as i just now was repairing
my bicycle.

Could You give a screenshot prt sc of win7 and your background on
email please ?

Not by email. I am posting a URL, however, so others can share.
http://www.cavalcade-of-coding.info/usenet/trnje_hr.jpg
my much beloved!

Well, thank you, that's very nice.
 
K

Kim André Akerø


Most browsers place that part of the content "on top" of the left-hand
table, and some "only" do it when the browser window is resized to a low
enough width (best guess by eye measuring it, I'd say about 1000 pixels
wide). Here are screenshots using all browsers I have installed on my
system:
http://capture.kimandre.com/usenet/trnje_hr_opera10.jpg
http://capture.kimandre.com/usenet/trnje_hr_chrome7.jpg
http://capture.kimandre.com/usenet/trnje_hr_firefox36.jpg
http://capture.kimandre.com/usenet/trnje_hr_ie8.jpg
http://capture.kimandre.com/usenet/trnje_hr_safari5.jpg

A casual look using Opera's element inspector (Dragonfly) tells me the
left-hand image is placed using absolute positioning. Giving it a negative
positioning value (your "left" property is set to -14px) is not a stable
method, and can easily affect your other content.

If your goal is to place that image to the left of your content anyway
(and the image is not meant to cover, or to be covered by, other content),
I'd do this differently.

But as others have said, you may want to run your site through the
validators to find potential (other) problems with your code.
 
M

mogwaii

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed mogwaii <[email protected]>
writing in



Gazing into my crystal ball I observed mogwaii <[email protected]>
writing in @v19g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
The image is on the left side under the "post it" image.
It is allright in firefox and IE but in Opera is putted on the
content table, i don't get why! ?
the site iswww.trnje.hr
http://www.trnje.hr/
There are 39 markup errors and 2 markup warnings:
[http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.trnje.hr/]
There are numberous CSS errors as well:
[http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.trnje.hr/
&warning=1&profile=css2]
Is the background color of the page supposed to be white? It's not
on my
system because I don't use the standard windows background - I use
pale blue, so the white elements stick out. You might want to think
about declaring a background color for the body element in your CSS,
while you're fixing that along with all the other errors.
Opera 11, Windows 7.
Thanks,
nothing new.
i Did left that on purposely for two-three reasons, two of them which
are for long analyzing and the third reason is that marquee tool just
can't get bypassed in this version of scrolling without markup errors
in html coding. Though, sorry for that Girl. It can be perfect but
that's rare.

The first thing to do when a page is not rendering the way you expect it
to is to fix any markup or CSS errors. Then you can eliminate errors as
being the cause of the problem, and play around with it until it renders
the way you expect it to.
This is more like an offtopic as i didn't tried to get people
understood me quite well, i left things to other to work on if they
simply care a bit.
Every gives a bit and You have a lot of ....data, a full fridge of
groceries. yeah :)
I'm convinced it could be perfect but still, i do not have the
possibilities right now for perfectionism as i just now was repairing
my bicycle.
Could You give a screenshot prt sc of win7 and your background on
email please ?

Not by email.  I am posting a URL, however, so others can share.http://www.cavalcade-of-coding.info/usenet/trnje_hr.jpg


my much beloved!

Well, thank you, that's very nice.

--
Adrienne Boswell at Home
Arbpen Web Site Design Serviceshttp://www.cavalcade-of-coding.info
Please respond to the group so others can share- Sakrij citirani tekst -

- Prikaži citirani tekst -


hi folks, ,,, i fixed some of the problems, now only 18 errors left as
html coding concerns.
It is mostly part of Marquee tool which i don't know to arrange
without erorrs...


As for .css i have added:
body {
color: white;
}
in main .css file, so perhaps now is super?
 
M

mogwaii

Most browsers place that part of the content "on top" of the left-hand  
table, and some "only" do it when the browser window is resized to a low  
enough width (best guess by eye measuring it, I'd say about 1000 pixels  
wide). Here are screenshots using all browsers I have installed on my  
system:http://capture.kimandre.com/usenet/...ture.kimandre.com/usenet/trnje_hr_safari5.jpg

A casual look using Opera's element inspector (Dragonfly) tells me the  
left-hand image is placed using absolute positioning. Giving it a negative  
positioning value (your "left" property is set to -14px) is not a stable  
method, and can easily affect your other content.

If your goal is to place that image to the left of your content anyway  
(and the image is not meant to cover, or to be covered by, other content),  
I'd do this differently.

But as others have said, you may want to run your site through the  
validators to find potential (other) problems with your code.


hi @Andre !

How would you do it so that image is standing firmly at left side of
the screen in most browsers ?

i fixed as much html coding errors as i know to solve, others are part
of marquee tool coding form.
 
J

Jonathan N. Little

mogwaii said:
hi folks, ,,, i fixed some of the problems, now only 18 errors left as
html coding concerns.
It is mostly part of Marquee tool which i don't know to arrange
without erorrs...

Marquee tool? Do you mean the Marquee element <marquee></marquee>, if so
you won't that is a Microsoft hideous creation/

As for .css i have added:
body {
color: white;
}

IIRC what is not the *background* color that you want white? That rule
sets the *foreground* or the color of the text. It looks like you need
to learn a little about the basics first, look at the tutorials at
htmldog.com. Far better than the code-monkey route.
 
M

moja kolekcija

hi @Andre !

How would you do it so that image is standing firmly at left side of
the screen in most browsers ?

i fixed as much html coding errors as i know to solve, others are part
of marquee tool coding form.- Sakrij citirani tekst -

- Prikaži citirani tekst -

i have tried making a new table with image in it, but i haven't
succedd, it still showed but on the right side and it is transparent.
I like transparent for this picture.

Still trying to make it onthe left side outside the table and that is
compatible in most affiremed browsers.

Transparent solution and non-clickable solution would be a really
really great thing to do. so that is possible to click on the table
through img, is that possible to do with css/html just ?


thanks.
 
M

mogwaii

i have tried making a new table with image in it, but i haven't
succeeded, it still showed up but on the right side and it is
transparent.
I like transparent option for this image, moreover it was clickable.

Still trying to make it on the left side outside the table and that
is
compatible in most affirmed browsers.


Maybe my only solution is not to put this image on the webpage,
although i thought that would be great
There are three options which i'm now looking to use...

1. to try to adjust it over the table next to table sloution, but i
tried that and the second table(main table with content )which goes
down although it has float:left; attribute so as first table has it
also)


2. mix of css-html with or without transparency...

3. flash posssibility with close option ....


I would like to do it with 1. option but don't wan't to go into
complexities ...


anybody HALLLLOOOOO?

HO-HO-HO
 
J

Jonathan N. Little

mogwaii said:
i have tried making a new table with image in it, but i haven't
succeeded, it still showed up but on the right side and it is
transparent.
I like transparent option for this image, moreover it was clickable.

Still trying to make it on the left side outside the table and that
is
compatible in most affirmed browsers.


Maybe my only solution is not to put this image on the webpage,
although i thought that would be great
There are three options which i'm now looking to use...

1. to try to adjust it over the table next to table sloution, but i
tried that and the second table(main table with content )which goes
down although it has float:left; attribute so as first table has it
also)


2. mix of css-html with or without transparency...

3. flash posssibility with close option ....


I would like to do it with 1. option but don't wan't to go into
complexities ...


anybody HALLLLOOOOO?

Are you referring to http://www.trnje.hr/? What table? What
transparency? What code?
 

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