web page build on XML/XSL

Discussion in 'XML' started by wassil, May 29, 2005.

  1. wassil

    wassil Guest

    i am newbie and i want create my own web build on XMLand XSL
    technology.
    i would like to know if exist some SW where is possible easy create a
    web page (something like Wysiwyg XML/XSL editor) without to have deep
    knowledge about these two technology -XML/XSL?
     
    wassil, May 29, 2005
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    Peter Flynn Guest

    wassil wrote:

    > i am newbie and i want create my own web build on XMLand XSL
    > technology.
    > i would like to know if exist some SW where is possible easy create a
    > web page (something like Wysiwyg XML/XSL editor) without to have deep
    > knowledge about these two technology -XML/XSL?


    Not really at the moment. There are higher-end website design programs
    like Dreamweaver which use XML internally (but not XSLT, yet?) but they
    still produce HTML pages because there are still many millions of users
    out there whose browsers won't do XML. And there are the big corporate
    web content-control systems which are all XML (and maybe XSLT too), but
    I assume these are beyond the reach of your wallet :)

    Currently you need to server HTML -- still -- while there are so many
    old browsers out there, unless you don't mind serving only to people
    whose browsers can do XML and XSLT.

    See the FAQ for more details, especially the article on software
    (http://xml.silmaril.ie/developers/software/) and the XML test page
    (which uses just XML and CSS) at http://xml.silmaril.ie/test.xml.
    There is a working example page which uses XML and XSLT at
    http://www.silmaril.ie/hotels.xml

    ///Peter
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    Peter Flynn, May 29, 2005
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    Malte Guest

    wassil wrote:
    > i am newbie and i want create my own web build on XMLand XSL
    > technology.
    > i would like to know if exist some SW where is possible easy create a
    > web page (something like Wysiwyg XML/XSL editor) without to have deep
    > knowledge about these two technology -XML/XSL?


    Our projects developed a small framework to handle the content (actually
    CLOB data from Oracle) in the form of XML then the parsing by way of
    XSL. Once you get the hang of it it is really a matter of understand XSL
    (I assume that understanding XML is a given).

    I am not aware that there are tools out there that would automate this
    work. Obviously, there are tools that will make it somewhat easier for
    you to write your XSL. We use OxygenXML.
     
    Malte, May 29, 2005
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    Andy Dingley Guest

    On 29 May 2005 03:41:25 -0700, (wassil) wrote:

    >i am newbie and i want create my own web build on XMLand XSL
    >technology.


    I'd have to ask _why_ you want to do this? What "new thing" are you
    expecting to get from using XSL ?

    You can't serve XML / XSL over the web (you could, but it's not a good
    idea) -- all it can do for you is to be a better way to make HTML on
    the server, then to serve that HTML. So you have to ask how you're
    making this "back end" XML, then which part of the process it can help
    you to simplify. There are many good reasons to do this, but we'd have
    to know more about your particular idea to suggest more.


    >i would like to know if exist some SW where is possible easy create a
    >web page (something like Wysiwyg XML/XSL editor) without to have deep
    >knowledge about these two technology -XML/XSL?


    You don't need to know all that much XML / XSL to to use them. A lot of
    database -> XML -> XSL -> HTML sites can be built by first hand-coding
    one "results" page in HTML, then converting this into an XSLT
    stylesheet. The XSLT you need to know for this is pretty simple and
    standard across all uses - a good textbook (try Michael Kay's) will
    help.

    One of the most convenient XSL tools I've found was XMLSpy, but the
    version I used was too expensive and buggy to recommend it.



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    Andy Dingley, Jun 2, 2005
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