max # of threads

G

gmlvsk2

i use ver 5.8.8 on linux.
2 gig of memory
Running this example perl dies after 295 threads.
JVM lets me create tens of thousands.
Is perl so limited when it comes to threads?

test script---------------------------
use strict;
use threads;

for(my $i=0; ; $i++){
threads->new(\&f1);
print "$i\n";
}

sub f1{
sleep 100;
}

output ----------------------------------
291
292
293
294
295
Thread creation failed: pthread_create returned 12 at tmp.pl line 5.
296
Thread creation failed: pthread_create returned 12 at tmp.pl line 5.
297
Thread creation failed: pthread_create returned 12 at tmp.pl line 5.
298
Thread creation failed: pthread_create returned 12 at tmp.pl line 5.
299

....
Thread creation failed: pthread_create returned 12 at tmp.pl line 5.
383
Out of memory!
Segmentation fault
 
X

xhoster

i use ver 5.8.8 on linux.
2 gig of memory
Click to expand...

what architecture and version of linux?
Running this example perl dies after 295 threads.
Click to expand...

Hmmm. I get 1232 with the 5.8.8 on a machine with 2 gig of memory before
it does with a out of memory error. God knows why I would want to, but I
can.

This is perl, v5.8.8 built for i686-linux-thread-multi

2.4.21-15.0.3.ELsmp #1 SMP Tue Jun 29 18:04:47 EDT 2004 i686 unknown
unknown GNU/Linux
JVM lets me create tens of thousands.
Click to expand...

So, if you need tens of thousands of threads, use Java.
Is perl so limited when it comes to threads?
Click to expand...

Apparently. I've never viewed the creation of threads as a worthy goal
in and of itself, so it doesn't seem like much of a limitation to me.

Xho
 
G

gmlvsk2

Here is some more info

Linux 2.6.15-1.2054_FC5smp #1 SMP Tue Mar 14 16:05:46 EST 2006 i686
i686 i386 GNU/Linux

Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 8 subversion 8) configuration:
Platform:
osname=linux, osvers=2.6.9-22.18.bz155725.elsmp,
archname=i386-linux-thread-multi
uname='linux hs20-bc1-6.build.redhat.com 2.6.9-22.18.bz155725.elsmp
#1 smp thu nov 17 15:34:08 est 2005 i686 i686 i386 gnulinux '
config_args='-des -Doptimize=-O2 -g -pipe -Wall
-Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector
--param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=generic
-fasynchronous-unwind-tables -Dversion=5.8.8 -Dmyhostname=localhost
-Dperladmin=root@localhost -Dcc=gcc -Dcf_by=Red Hat, Inc.
-Dinstallprefix=/usr -Dprefix=/usr -Darchname=i386-linux
-Dvendorprefix=/usr -Dsiteprefix=/usr -Duseshrplib -Dusethreads
-Duseithreads -Duselargefiles -Dd_dosuid -Dd_semctl_semun -Di_db
-Ui_ndbm -Di_gdbm -Di_shadow -Di_syslog -Dman3ext=3pm -Duseperlio
-Dinstallusrbinperl=n -Ubincompat5005 -Uversiononly
-Dpager=/usr/bin/less -isr -Dd_gethostent_r_proto
-Ud_endhostent_r_proto -Ud_sethostent_r_proto -Ud_endprotoent_r_proto
-Ud_setprotoent_r_proto -Ud_endservent_r_proto -Ud_setservent_r_proto
-Dinc_version_list=5.8.7 5.8.6 5.8.5 5.8.4 5.8.3 -Dscriptdir=/usr/bin'
hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define
usethreads=define use5005threads=undef useithreads=define
usemultiplicity=define
useperlio=define d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define usesocks=undef
use64bitint=undef use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef
usemymalloc=n, bincompat5005=undef
Compiler:
cc='gcc', ccflags ='-D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -fno-strict-aliasing
-pipe -Wdeclaration-after-statement -I/usr/local/include
-D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I/usr/include/gdbm',
optimize='-O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions
-fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i386
-mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables',
cppflags='-D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe
-Wdeclaration-after-statement -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/include/gdbm'
ccversion='', gccversion='4.1.0 20060228 (Red Hat 4.1.0-1)',
gccosandvers=''
intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8, byteorder=1234
d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12
ivtype='long', ivsize=4, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, Off_t='off_t',
lseeksize=8
alignbytes=4, prototype=define
Linker and Libraries:
ld='gcc', ldflags =' -L/usr/local/lib'
libpth=/usr/local/lib /lib /usr/lib
libs=-lresolv -lnsl -lgdbm -ldb -ldl -lm -lcrypt -lutil -lpthread
-lc
perllibs=-lresolv -lnsl -ldl -lm -lcrypt -lutil -lpthread -lc
libc=/lib/libc-2.3.90.so, so=so, useshrplib=true,
libperl=libperl.so
gnulibc_version='2.3.90'
Dynamic Linking:
dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags='-Wl,-E
-Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE'
cccdlflags='-fPIC', lddlflags='-shared -L/usr/local/lib'


Characteristics of this binary (from libperl):
Compile-time options: MULTIPLICITY PERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT
PERL_MALLOC_WRAP USE_ITHREADS USE_LARGE_FILES
USE_PERLIO USE_REENTRANT_API
Built under linux
Compiled at Mar 1 2006 18:29:53
@INC:
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.4/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.4
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.4/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.4
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8
 
G

gmlvsk2

Here is some more info

Linux 2.6.15-1.2054_FC5smp #1 SMP Tue Mar 14 16:05:46 EST 2006 i686
i686 i386 GNU/Linux

Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 8 subversion 8) configuration:
Platform:
osname=linux, osvers=2.6.9-22.18.bz155725.elsmp,
archname=i386-linux-thread-multi
uname='linux hs20-bc1-6.build.redhat.com 2.6.9-22.18.bz155725.elsmp
#1 smp thu nov 17 15:34:08 est 2005 i686 i686 i386 gnulinux '
config_args='-des -Doptimize=-O2 -g -pipe -Wall
-Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector
--param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i386 -mtune=generic
-fasynchronous-unwind-tables -Dversion=5.8.8 -Dmyhostname=localhost
-Dperladmin=root@localhost -Dcc=gcc -Dcf_by=Red Hat, Inc.
-Dinstallprefix=/usr -Dprefix=/usr -Darchname=i386-linux
-Dvendorprefix=/usr -Dsiteprefix=/usr -Duseshrplib -Dusethreads
-Duseithreads -Duselargefiles -Dd_dosuid -Dd_semctl_semun -Di_db
-Ui_ndbm -Di_gdbm -Di_shadow -Di_syslog -Dman3ext=3pm -Duseperlio
-Dinstallusrbinperl=n -Ubincompat5005 -Uversiononly
-Dpager=/usr/bin/less -isr -Dd_gethostent_r_proto
-Ud_endhostent_r_proto -Ud_sethostent_r_proto -Ud_endprotoent_r_proto
-Ud_setprotoent_r_proto -Ud_endservent_r_proto -Ud_setservent_r_proto
-Dinc_version_list=5.8.7 5.8.6 5.8.5 5.8.4 5.8.3 -Dscriptdir=/usr/bin'
hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define
usethreads=define use5005threads=undef useithreads=define
usemultiplicity=define
useperlio=define d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define usesocks=undef
use64bitint=undef use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef
usemymalloc=n, bincompat5005=undef
Compiler:
cc='gcc', ccflags ='-D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -fno-strict-aliasing
-pipe -Wdeclaration-after-statement -I/usr/local/include
-D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I/usr/include/gdbm',
optimize='-O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions
-fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i386
-mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables',
cppflags='-D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe
-Wdeclaration-after-statement -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/include/gdbm'
ccversion='', gccversion='4.1.0 20060228 (Red Hat 4.1.0-1)',
gccosandvers=''
intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8, byteorder=1234
d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12
ivtype='long', ivsize=4, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, Off_t='off_t',
lseeksize=8
alignbytes=4, prototype=define
Linker and Libraries:
ld='gcc', ldflags =' -L/usr/local/lib'
libpth=/usr/local/lib /lib /usr/lib
libs=-lresolv -lnsl -lgdbm -ldb -ldl -lm -lcrypt -lutil -lpthread
-lc
perllibs=-lresolv -lnsl -ldl -lm -lcrypt -lutil -lpthread -lc
libc=/lib/libc-2.3.90.so, so=so, useshrplib=true,
libperl=libperl.so
gnulibc_version='2.3.90'
Dynamic Linking:
dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags='-Wl,-E
-Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE'
cccdlflags='-fPIC', lddlflags='-shared -L/usr/local/lib'


Characteristics of this binary (from libperl):
Compile-time options: MULTIPLICITY PERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT
PERL_MALLOC_WRAP USE_ITHREADS USE_LARGE_FILES
USE_PERLIO USE_REENTRANT_API
Built under linux
Compiled at Mar 1 2006 18:29:53
@INC:
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.4/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.4
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.4/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.7
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.6
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.4
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.3
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8
 

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