Certification... just lost a job offer

Discussion in 'Java' started by Jim, Jun 30, 2004.

  1. Jim

    Jim Guest

    I thought I aced the interview.

    I went in with a graphical and text oriented portfolio, showed
    my stuff in color coded tabs, showed an extensive history of
    experienced programming. I've done their project a dozen times
    over. I'm the man.

    To make it sting even more, the job was paying $10,000 less
    than I felt comfortable taking. I felt it was a demotion.
    (Relocating) But it was okay. The enviornment had tons
    of potential.

    It was a slam dunk interview or so I thought. I didn't hear
    anything back for a month and suspected they were still looking.
    Sure enough, today, I'm told a different candidate was selected.

    So I sent an e-mail asking the hiring manager for future
    interviewing advice. Assuming the guy was sincere and honest, I
    didn't get the job because I wasn't certified and the competition
    was. Say again??

    It was for a SQLServer DBA/Java/JSP position. It used to be that
    MS certification was the butt of jokes. JSP certification? Are
    you kidding? Solaris, Java, Cisco, maybe even Redhat might carry
    some weight I guess.

    Hey, I'm a MCP! I stopped the ridiculous tests because it became
    apparent that they were easy, it didn't weight for much, and it
    cost hundreds of dollars. Why pay for something that managers
    laughed at and which expired every couple of years? Except
    apparently managers don't laugh any more.

    Anyway, rant aside, I've been tucked away in a nice stable job
    for the past seven years. Are certifications the thing to have
    now? If so, which ones?

    Thanks for the help.
    Jim, Jun 30, 2004
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  2. Chris Smith

    Chris Smith Guest

    Jim wrote:
    > Anyway, rant aside, I've been tucked away in a nice stable job
    > for the past seven years. Are certifications the thing to have
    > now? If so, which ones?

    The SCJP certification in Java has always been at least somewhat known
    and respected. As of late, I've been hearing a lot about the SCBCD and
    SCWCD (Sun's EJB and servlet/JSP certs, respectively). I've never heard
    anything about Sun's Java developer and architect-level certifications,
    except from Sun themselves.

    I don't think certifications have become "the thing", though, except
    *maybe* the SCJP for entry-level positions. Perhaps the company was
    looking for an excuse to hire the HR manager's son (I've seen it
    happen!), or perhaps they are unusually focused on documentation. In
    either case, you could choose to look at it as a blessing that you were
    spared the experience.

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    Chris Smith, Jun 30, 2004
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