e-mail x-html - How to Learn?

[Mason A. Clark]

I just received a beautiful e-mail with background, pictures, and
music.

It played great in my Eudora mail program.

How do I learn to do that? I don't even know where to ask.

I prefer to put such things on a web page and e-mail the
link -- but there might be a time to send it direct e-mail.

Mason C

 

[Roy Schestowitz]

I just received a beautiful e-mail with background, pictures, and
music.

It played great in my Eudora mail program.

How do I learn to do that? I don't even know where to ask.

I prefer to put such things on a web page and e-mail the
link -- but there might be a time to send it direct e-mail.

Bearing in mind that the poster sent this as a joke...

http://www.georgedillon.com/web/html_email_is_evil.shtml

Roy

 

[Neredbojias]

With neither quill nor qualm, Mason A. Clark quothed:

I just received a beautiful e-mail with background, pictures, and
music.

It played great in my Eudora mail program.

How do I learn to do that? I don't even know where to ask.

I prefer to put such things on a web page and e-mail the
link -- but there might be a time to send it direct e-mail.

Your last paragraph is probably the better procedure. Graphic email is
just html - the same as a webpage. I actually started learning website-
making by futzing with the source html of email in OE.

 

[Louis1]

I want to do the same.

I am able to write and display the HTML in email,
but cannot seem to get the knack for displaying graphics.

I have a couple of websites, but when I link to a picture on
my webserver, the graphics won't display.

Any ideas would be appreciated. In my Google searches,
all I get are companies that want to charge me a monthly fee
to do it for me, and that is absurd, I just need to know the best
way to link to pictures on my web page.

Thanks very much,
Louis

 

[WD10]

I want to do the same.

I am able to write and display the HTML in email,
but cannot seem to get the knack for displaying graphics.

I have a couple of websites, but when I link to a picture on
my webserver, the graphics won't display.

Any ideas would be appreciated. In my Google searches,
all I get are companies that want to charge me a monthly fee
to do it for me, and that is absurd, I just need to know the best
way to link to pictures on my web page.

Thanks very much,
Louis

To link to an image on your server:

<img src="http://www.your-server-URL-goes-here.com/images/your-image.gif"
alt="some alt text">

Did you add the http part?

 

[Neredbojias]

With neither quill nor qualm, Louis1 quothed:

I want to do the same.

I am able to write and display the HTML in email,
but cannot seem to get the knack for displaying graphics.

I have a couple of websites, but when I link to a picture on
my webserver, the graphics won't display.

Any ideas would be appreciated. In my Google searches,
all I get are companies that want to charge me a monthly fee
to do it for me, and that is absurd, I just need to know the best
way to link to pictures on my web page.

Some servers block access to files from an outside referrer. If you're
sure your markup is correct and you have an Apache server, check into
the .htaccess file and rewrite conditions.

 

[Roy Schestowitz]

__/ [Louis1] on Monday 05 September 2005 04:19 \__

I want to do the same.

I am able to write and display the HTML in email,
but cannot seem to get the knack for displaying graphics.

I have a couple of websites, but when I link to a picture on
my webserver, the graphics won't display.

Any ideas would be appreciated. In my Google searches,
all I get are companies that want to charge me a monthly fee
to do it for me, and that is absurd, I just need to know the best
way to link to pictures on my web page.

Thanks very much,
Louis

My guess is that your mail client -- the one that you happen to test the
message under -- prevents images from being displayed. Older versions of
MS-homebred applications are the exception as they have a poor notion of
security. Reference to remote images is a common characterstic of spam,
whereby your IP address leaks to the Web, informing the spammer where you
are and whether your E-mail account is alive.

If you are not sure whether the above is the cause for your woe, have a
thorough look at your mail client's settings. Additionally, you can test
your HTML-formatted E-mail[1] by making it a Web page and testing it in
your Web browser.

Hope it helps,

Roy

[1] Personally I despise HTML-formatted E-mails, but different strokes for
different folks.

 

[Jonathan N. Little]

Roy Schestowitz wrote:

My guess is that your mail client -- the one that you happen to test the
message under -- prevents images from being displayed. Older versions of
MS-homebred applications are the exception as they have a poor notion of
security. Reference to remote images is a common characterstic of spam,
whereby your IP address leaks to the Web, informing the spammer where you
are and whether your E-mail account is alive.

If you are not sure whether the above is the cause for your woe, have a
thorough look at your mail client's settings. Additionally, you can test
your HTML-formatted E-mail[1] by making it a Web page and testing it in
your Web browser.

Hope it helps,

Roy

[1] Personally I despise HTML-formatted E-mails, but different strokes for
different folks.

Most email clients will try to embed the images even if the source is
online. They create a multi-part message, download and attach the image
and then change your 'src' reference in your html formatted email to
point to the attachment. Tested on various email clients. The only way I
had success in creating an email with a linked online resource is via
server script to generate the email.

That said, email *is not* really suited for conveying large data. A
moderate size image 200 or 300Kb can really bog down a mail server.
Dialup email download can be reduced to a crawl. As an artist I have to
send good size images to clients. I upload them to a temp folder on my
website and send them a link in a email. Of course I have had some folks
try to send 8x10 24 or 42-bit 600 DPI uncompressed images to me. The
record was 21MB email. I was *not* pleased!

 

[Roy Schestowitz]

__/ [Jonathan N. Little] on Tuesday 06 September 2005 14:42 \__

Roy Schestowitz wrote:

My guess is that your mail client -- the one that you happen to test the
message under -- prevents images from being displayed. Older versions of
MS-homebred applications are the exception as they have a poor notion of
security. Reference to remote images is a common characterstic of spam,
whereby your IP address leaks to the Web, informing the spammer where you
are and whether your E-mail account is alive.

If you are not sure whether the above is the cause for your woe, have a
thorough look at your mail client's settings. Additionally, you can test
your HTML-formatted E-mail[1] by making it a Web page and testing it in
your Web browser.

Hope it helps,

Roy

[1] Personally I despise HTML-formatted E-mails, but different strokes
[for
different folks.

Most email clients will try to embed the images even if the source is
online. They create a multi-part message, download and attach the image
and then change your 'src' reference in your html formatted email to
point to the attachment. Tested on various email clients. The only way I
had success in creating an email with a linked online resource is via
server script to generate the email.

That said, email *is not* really suited for conveying large data. A
moderate size image 200 or 300Kb can really bog down a mail server.
Dialup email download can be reduced to a crawl. As an artist I have to
send good size images to clients. I upload them to a temp folder on my
website and send them a link in a email. Of course I have had some folks
try to send 8x10 24 or 42-bit 600 DPI uncompressed images to me.

I find it frustrating when setting up computers for University staff who use
dial-up. When receiving their mail it often turns out to be a time-cosuming
process as they send each other MSWord attachments and other types of
bloated presentations. Needless to mention, I stop the testing process and
tell them to get it finished at home.

My colleagues sometimes send me ~5 MB PDF 's(yes, no notion of compression,
even for vector graphics). It gets worse when they send progressive
revisions of a paper, which means I can get a dozen of these, totalling at
60 MB on my hard-drive.

The
record was 21MB email. I was *not* pleased!

At least you could 'absorb' that. I set my quota to 20MB, which is more than
enough and more than I ever wish to or expect to receive.

Roy

 

[Louis1]

Thanks - I'll check it out. I like your web page, too

Part of this is the challenge of it. I would like to know how
to do it, partly because of a desire to help out my employer,
and part because I can see some practical application, especially
with very-small graphics, though I realize I probably cannot
get it to work with all email clients.

Thanks again!

 

[Jonathan N. Little]

Roy Schestowitz wrote:

At least you could 'absorb' that. I set my quota to 20MB, which is more than
enough and more than I ever wish to or expect to receive.

Roy

For that account it does not have a limit, but my poor dialup connection
couldn't handle it! Luckily I also had webmail access to the account.
Had to dump it and send the client my standard 'how to resample images
for the web tutorial' *without* offending and lose the business!

Yes, I also have a number of folks who like to send attached MS Word
docs. Not because they need to preserve the format for edibility, no--it
just never occurred to them to use CTRL-C CTR-V sequence to just paste
the text!

That said, I find html-formatted email an indispensable tool as an
artist. The ability to format images and text to assist in project
development and marketing is far superior then listing my correspondence
and trying to link the comment to the series of images attached at the
end. Far better than the old days of printing up presentations and then
enduring the postal delay process! Especially for our patrons in
Australia, Japan and Europe! Now I take great care scale and optimize
images to limit message size. Usually less than 100Kb. So I’d hate to
have abuse spoil what is a real tool for me.

 

[Neredbojias]

With neither quill nor qualm, Jonathan N. Little quothed:

So I’d hate to
have abuse spoil what is a real tool for me.

Yup. I had to learn that the hard way.

 

[Jonathan N. Little]

With neither quill nor qualm, Jonathan N. Little quothed:




Yup. I had to learn that the hard way.

What you you mean by that? Just curious...

 

[Neredbojias]

With neither quill nor qualm, Jonathan N. Little quothed:

What you you mean by that? Just curious...

Nada. Why?

 

[Jonathan N. Little]

With neither quill nor qualm, Jonathan N. Little quothed:




Nada. Why?

Because you are usually being glib! Levity can be ok, but I was just
wondered if you had a real point to make here. How did you 'learn it
the hard way'? Where you the offender or the offendee?

 

[Neredbojias]

With neither quill nor qualm, Jonathan N. Little quothed:

Because you are usually being glib! Levity can be ok, but I was just
wondered if you had a real point to make here. How did you 'learn it
the hard way'? Where you the offender or the offendee?

Okay, I see. I thought *you* were being stuffy. It was an oblique
reference to a common act we all know and love but seldom talk about.
Think of "tool" and "abuse" and even learning "the hard way"... Get it?

(PS: Does that qualify as glib?)