FTP Question

[Tony Cooper]

Since this group is probably familiar with the FTP process, I'll try
this here:

I haven't tried the Adobe Web Photo Gallery before, and I'm stuck at
the FTP stage. I went through the steps to create the gallery, and
end up with a folder that I named Webup.

Webup contains:

Subfolder: Images (contains .jpgs)
Subfolder: Pages
Subfolder: Thumbnails (contains .jpgs)
Index.html

I use Brandyware's FreeFTP and my Earthlink web space. I can't figure
out how to upload the entire folder Webup, so I have to upload the
contents of Webup and each subfolder.

When I go to http://(earthlinkaddress)/index.html I get my page with
the links to the images, but clicking on the links gives me a page not
found. Obviously, there's no links between index.html and the images
that I've uploaded. It seems to me that all of the contents of the
folder and subfolders should be in one uploaded file.

If you can make any sense out of this, and see what I'm doing wrong,
please advise.

 

[Joker7]

: Since this group is probably familiar with the FTP process, I'll try
: this here:
:

Post url so we can see whats up

Cheers
Chris
kick-butt.co.uk

 

[mbstevens]

Since this group is probably familiar with the FTP process, I'll try
this here:

I haven't tried the Adobe Web Photo Gallery before, and I'm stuck at
the FTP stage. I went through the steps to create the gallery, and
end up with a folder that I named Webup.

Webup contains:

Subfolder: Images (contains .jpgs)
Subfolder: Pages
Subfolder: Thumbnails (contains .jpgs)
Index.html

I use Brandyware's FreeFTP and my Earthlink web space. I can't figure
out how to upload the entire folder Webup, so I have to upload the
contents of Webup and each subfolder.

When I go to http://(earthlinkaddress)/index.html I get my page with
the links to the images, but clicking on the links gives me a page not
found. Obviously, there's no links between index.html and the images
that I've uploaded. It seems to me that all of the contents of the
folder and subfolders should be in one uploaded file.

If you can make any sense out of this, and see what I'm doing wrong,
please advise.

Earthlink uses the unix operating system. It is sensitive to letter case.

If you have a link to "zot.jpg" and the actual name is "Zot.jpg", it
will fail. Check that every link has the exact upper and lower case
as the actual file name.

 

[Jonathan N. Little]

Since this group is probably familiar with the FTP process, I'll try
this here:

I haven't tried the Adobe Web Photo Gallery before, and I'm stuck at
the FTP stage. I went through the steps to create the gallery, and
end up with a folder that I named Webup.

Webup contains:

Subfolder: Images (contains .jpgs)
Subfolder: Pages
Subfolder: Thumbnails (contains .jpgs)
Index.html

I use Brandyware's FreeFTP and my Earthlink web space. I can't figure
out how to upload the entire folder Webup, so I have to upload the
contents of Webup and each subfolder.

When I go to http://(earthlinkaddress)/index.html I get my page with
the links to the images, but clicking on the links gives me a page not
found. Obviously, there's no links between index.html and the images
that I've uploaded. It seems to me that all of the contents of the
folder and subfolders should be in one uploaded file.

If you can make any sense out of this, and see what I'm doing wrong,
please advise.

How are your links to your images coded? Relative paths or absolute of
your local folder on your hard drive (a common error)?

ex:

from www.domain.com/index.html

<img src="Subfolder/pix.jpg"> (will work)
<img src="/Subfolder/pix.jpg"> (will also work if index.html is in your
document root)
<img
src="file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/You/Desktop/Subfolder/pix.jpg">
(this will obviously fail!)

Also I noticed your listed your document as 'Index.html' If you build a
webpage on a Windows system it is case insensitive, i.e.,

Index.html == index.html == INDEX.HTML == InDex.HtMl

This is NOT the case with *nix based web servers and so if in the
webpage the image src is "Subfolder/pix.jpg" but the image is named
"Subfolder/pix.JPG" is could work locally on your Windows system but
fail when uploaded.

 

[Tony Cooper]

: Since this group is probably familiar with the FTP process, I'll try
: this here:
:

Post url so we can see whats up

http://home.earthlink.net/~tony_cooper213/index.html

This comes up, but the links don't link.

If you're familiar with Adobe Gallery, what should appear with the
above are thumbnails which, when clicked, link to the larger image.

 

[Tony Cooper]

Earthlink uses the unix operating system. It is sensitive to letter case.

If you have a link to "zot.jpg" and the actual name is "Zot.jpg", it
will fail. Check that every link has the exact upper and lower case
as the actual file name.

http://home.earthlink.net/~tony_cooper213/index.html works, but
instead of thumbnails the links appear, and the links don't link.

I have ftp'd a number of pages up with no problems. However, these
have been pages of html with links. My links are in the page, but the
Gallery has several folders that are created by Adobe.

 

[Tony Cooper]

How are your links to your images coded? Relative paths or absolute of
your local folder on your hard drive (a common error)?

ex:

from www.domain.com/index.html

<img src="Subfolder/pix.jpg"> (will work)
<img src="/Subfolder/pix.jpg"> (will also work if index.html is in your
document root)
<img
src="file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/You/Desktop/Subfolder/pix.jpg">
(this will obviously fail!)

Also I noticed your listed your document as 'Index.html' If you build a
webpage on a Windows system it is case insensitive, i.e.,

Index.html == index.html == INDEX.HTML == InDex.HtMl

This is NOT the case with *nix based web servers and so if in the
webpage the image src is "Subfolder/pix.jpg" but the image is named
"Subfolder/pix.JPG" is could work locally on your Windows system but
fail when uploaded.

I know I'm not explaining this clearly, but what you've said above
would be relevant if I had created a page using html. I can do that,
and get it to work fine.

However, this is something created in Adobe Photoshop 7, and I don't
write the tags. With the Adobe Web Gallery, you put images in a
folder and Photoshop creates the pages. I don't have to write any
tags in this program.

My problem seems to be just FTPing the right folders so that they are
linked.

You might wonder at this point why I'd want to bother with Adobe Web
Gallery if I can put up images on a site by writing my own page.
Well, it's easy to share pictures with family by just dumping the
images in a folder and hitting "Automate". Some text can be added,
but it's basically just images in some standard templates. I use PS7
quite a bit to tweak my photographs.

Last....other people use Adobe Web Gallery with Earthlink, and it
bothers me that I can't figure out how to do it when others can.

 

[Jonathan N. Little]

http://home.earthlink.net/~tony_cooper213/index.html

This comes up, but the links don't link.

If you're familiar with Adobe Gallery, what should appear with the
above are thumbnails which, when clicked, link to the larger image.

First of all I would recommend that your *STOP* using Adobe Gallery to
generate your html, it is really crappy code, a hodgepodge of inline
style and legacy html.

Next this is a snippet from the page:

<A href =" pages/cacmd%20005.html"><FONT size="3" face="Arial" >
^
|
+---What's this space, a boo-boo!

and this:

cacmd 005.jpg</FONT>
^
|
+--- And this space

Embedded space in file names and paths can cause all kinds of trouble,
some OS's and servers can handle them, many do not.

So is your folder really named '[space]pages' or just 'pages'? That
'%20' in 'cacmd%20005.html' space in the filename...

 

[Dennis]

On 22 Jun 2005 Tony Cooper wrote in alt.html

http://home.earthlink.net/~tony_cooper213/index.html

This comes up, but the links don't link.

First things first. Get your email address off your site or you will be
getting a shit load of never ending spam!!!

 

[Dennis]

On 22 Jun 2005 Tony Cooper wrote in alt.html

http://home.earthlink.net/~tony_cooper213/index.html

This comes up, but the links don't link.

If you're familiar with Adobe Gallery, what should appear with the
above are thumbnails which, when clicked, link to the larger image.

I kinda looks like you didn't upload your "pages' directory to the corect
place. You have the 'webup' directory up there but with nothing in it. I
would guess you broke the directory structure. In other words, things just
arn't where they should be.

 

[Tony Cooper]

http://home.earthlink.net/~tony_cooper213/index.html

This comes up, but the links don't link.

If you're familiar with Adobe Gallery, what should appear with the
above are thumbnails which, when clicked, link to the larger image.

First of all I would recommend that your *STOP* using Adobe Gallery to
generate your html, it is really crappy code, a hodgepodge of inline
style and legacy html.

Next this is a snippet from the page:

<A href =" pages/cacmd%20005.html"><FONT size="3" face="Arial" >
^
|
+---What's this space, a boo-boo!

and this:

cacmd 005.jpg</FONT>
^
|
+--- And this space

Embedded space in file names and paths can cause all kinds of trouble,
some OS's and servers can handle them, many do not.

So is your folder really named '[space]pages' or just 'pages'? That
'%20' in 'cacmd%20005.html' space in the filename...

All that aside, many people use Adobe Web Gallery as a convenient way
to share images with family and a small group friends. It works for
them, but it isn't working for me.

If I want to do a web page, I can do it. There are situations where
that is the way to go, and situations where a quick gallery is the way
to go. There are other gallery programs available, and I could use
them.

Don't you understand, though, that there are times when you run up
against a roadblock and you just get stubborn and decide "I'll figure
this out."? That's where I am here.

As to the above, I don't write the tags. They're generated by Adobe.

 

[Tony Cooper]

On 22 Jun 2005 Tony Cooper wrote in alt.html


First things first. Get your email address off your site or you will be
getting a shit load of never ending spam!!!

The Gallery is sent just to friends and family via a link in email.
My address is already available through newsgroups because I don't
munge it. I already get a shit load of spam. I just filter and
delete.

 

[Tony Cooper]

On 22 Jun 2005 Tony Cooper wrote in alt.html


I kinda looks like you didn't upload your "pages' directory to the corect
place. You have the 'webup' directory up there but with nothing in it. I
would guess you broke the directory structure. In other words, things just
arn't where they should be.

Right. But how *should* I upload the folders?

 

[Dennis]

On 22 Jun 2005 Jonathan N. Little wrote in alt.html

Next this is a snippet from the page:

<A href =" pages/cacmd%20005.html"><FONT size="3" face="Arial" >
^
|
+---What's this space, a boo-boo!

I see no space there <A href="pages/cacmd%20005.html">

 

[Dennis]

On 22 Jun 2005 Tony Cooper wrote in alt.html

Right. But how *should* I upload the folders?

I don't know anything about Brandyware's FreeFTP but if you can upload a
folder named 'pages' than you should be able to upload your folder named
'webup' with it's contents intact.

 

[Joker7]

: On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:45:07 +0100, "Joker7" <[email protected]>
: wrote:
:
: http://home.earthlink.net/~tony_cooper213/index.html
:
: This comes up, but the links don't link.
:
: If you're familiar with Adobe Gallery, what should appear with the
: above are thumbnails which, when clicked, link to the larger image.

When you FTP to the site can you see dir: thumbnails & pages, if so where ?


As the link is broken somewhere. One way to test this is to drop a
index.html in each dir: with it's name then try to see it with your browser.

Chris

 

[Jonathan N. Little]

On 22 Jun 2005 Jonathan N. Little wrote in alt.html





I see no space there <A href="pages/cacmd%20005.html">

Not on the thumbnail links, look further down the page where the links
are repeated with the image filenames as the text in the link! The
inconstancy alone speaks volumes!

 

[Jonathan N. Little]

Dennis wrote:

I don't know anything about Brandyware's FreeFTP but if you can upload a
folder named 'pages' than you should be able to upload your folder named
'webup' with it's contents intact.

I use WS_FTP Pro and maintain several sites for years, they used to have
a LE freeware version that I used for years before that. You can upload
complete dir trees with no problem, even to Earthlink, did it for a
client a while back....

http://www.ftpplanet.com/downloadLE.asp

 

[Tony Cooper]

Dennis wrote:



I use WS_FTP Pro and maintain several sites for years, they used to have
a LE freeware version that I used for years before that. You can upload
complete dir trees with no problem, even to Earthlink, did it for a
client a while back....

http://www.ftpplanet.com/downloadLE.asp

OK, that did it. I downloaded a trial version of WS_FTP Pro and
uploaded the entire group of files. The links now work perfectly.

Evidently, the problem is with the FreeFTP program. It uploads files
but not folders with the proper linkages. It's a good little free
FTP program for uploading pages and .jpegs, but it has some
limitations.

I'm not sure that I like Adobe Web Gallery, but it became a challenge
to figure out what the problem was. I can't stand unresolved problems
like this. As a....hmmm...."mature"....adult, it bothers me that
teenagers whiz through things that I have trouble figuring out. I'm
determined to prove that I'm as smart as the average 14 year-old even
if it involves going to newsgroups for assistance.

Thanks for your help.

 

[Dennis]

On 23 Jun 2005 Tony Cooper wrote in alt.html

I'm
determined to prove that I'm as smart as the average 14 year-old

Good luck.