FTP Question

Discussion in 'HTML' started by Tony Cooper, Jun 23, 2005.

  1. Tony Cooper

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Since this group is probably familiar with the FTP process, I'll try
    this here:

    I haven't tried the Adobe Web Photo Gallery before, and I'm stuck at
    the FTP stage. I went through the steps to create the gallery, and
    end up with a folder that I named Webup.

    Webup contains:

    Subfolder: Images (contains .jpgs)
    Subfolder: Pages
    Subfolder: Thumbnails (contains .jpgs)
    Index.html

    I use Brandyware's FreeFTP and my Earthlink web space. I can't figure
    out how to upload the entire folder Webup, so I have to upload the
    contents of Webup and each subfolder.

    When I go to http://(earthlinkaddress)/index.html I get my page with
    the links to the images, but clicking on the links gives me a page not
    found. Obviously, there's no links between index.html and the images
    that I've uploaded. It seems to me that all of the contents of the
    folder and subfolders should be in one uploaded file.

    If you can make any sense out of this, and see what I'm doing wrong,
    please advise.

    --
    Tony Cooper
    Orlando FL
    Tony Cooper, Jun 23, 2005
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  2. Tony Cooper

    Joker7 Guest

    "Tony Cooper" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    : Since this group is probably familiar with the FTP process, I'll try
    : this here:
    :

    Post url so we can see whats up

    Cheers
    Chris
    kick-butt.co.uk
    Joker7, Jun 23, 2005
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  3. Tony Cooper

    mbstevens Guest

    Tony Cooper wrote:
    > Since this group is probably familiar with the FTP process, I'll try
    > this here:
    >
    > I haven't tried the Adobe Web Photo Gallery before, and I'm stuck at
    > the FTP stage. I went through the steps to create the gallery, and
    > end up with a folder that I named Webup.
    >
    > Webup contains:
    >
    > Subfolder: Images (contains .jpgs)
    > Subfolder: Pages
    > Subfolder: Thumbnails (contains .jpgs)
    > Index.html
    >
    > I use Brandyware's FreeFTP and my Earthlink web space. I can't figure
    > out how to upload the entire folder Webup, so I have to upload the
    > contents of Webup and each subfolder.
    >
    > When I go to http://(earthlinkaddress)/index.html I get my page with
    > the links to the images, but clicking on the links gives me a page not
    > found. Obviously, there's no links between index.html and the images
    > that I've uploaded. It seems to me that all of the contents of the
    > folder and subfolders should be in one uploaded file.
    >
    > If you can make any sense out of this, and see what I'm doing wrong,
    > please advise.
    >

    Earthlink uses the unix operating system. It is sensitive to letter case.

    If you have a link to "zot.jpg" and the actual name is "Zot.jpg", it
    will fail. Check that every link has the exact upper and lower case
    as the actual file name.
    mbstevens, Jun 23, 2005
    #3
  4. Tony Cooper wrote:
    > Since this group is probably familiar with the FTP process, I'll try
    > this here:
    >
    > I haven't tried the Adobe Web Photo Gallery before, and I'm stuck at
    > the FTP stage. I went through the steps to create the gallery, and
    > end up with a folder that I named Webup.
    >
    > Webup contains:
    >
    > Subfolder: Images (contains .jpgs)
    > Subfolder: Pages
    > Subfolder: Thumbnails (contains .jpgs)
    > Index.html
    >
    > I use Brandyware's FreeFTP and my Earthlink web space. I can't figure
    > out how to upload the entire folder Webup, so I have to upload the
    > contents of Webup and each subfolder.
    >
    > When I go to http://(earthlinkaddress)/index.html I get my page with
    > the links to the images, but clicking on the links gives me a page not
    > found. Obviously, there's no links between index.html and the images
    > that I've uploaded. It seems to me that all of the contents of the
    > folder and subfolders should be in one uploaded file.
    >
    > If you can make any sense out of this, and see what I'm doing wrong,
    > please advise.
    >

    How are your links to your images coded? Relative paths or absolute of
    your local folder on your hard drive (a common error)?

    ex:

    from www.domain.com/index.html

    <img src="Subfolder/pix.jpg"> (will work)
    <img src="/Subfolder/pix.jpg"> (will also work if index.html is in your
    document root)
    <img
    src="file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/You/Desktop/Subfolder/pix.jpg">
    (this will obviously fail!)

    Also I noticed your listed your document as 'Index.html' If you build a
    webpage on a Windows system it is case insensitive, i.e.,

    Index.html == index.html == INDEX.HTML == InDex.HtMl

    This is NOT the case with *nix based web servers and so if in the
    webpage the image src is "Subfolder/pix.jpg" but the image is named
    "Subfolder/pix.JPG" is could work locally on your Windows system but
    fail when uploaded.

    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
    Jonathan N. Little, Jun 23, 2005
    #4
  5. Tony Cooper

    Tony Cooper Guest

    On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:45:07 +0100, "Joker7" <>
    wrote:

    >
    >"Tony Cooper" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >: Since this group is probably familiar with the FTP process, I'll try
    >: this here:
    >:
    >
    >Post url so we can see whats up
    >


    http://home.earthlink.net/~tony_cooper213/index.html

    This comes up, but the links don't link.

    If you're familiar with Adobe Gallery, what should appear with the
    above are thumbnails which, when clicked, link to the larger image.


    --
    Tony Cooper
    Orlando FL
    Tony Cooper, Jun 23, 2005
    #5
  6. Tony Cooper

    Tony Cooper Guest

    On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:47:23 GMT, mbstevens
    <> wrote:

    >Tony Cooper wrote:
    >> Since this group is probably familiar with the FTP process, I'll try
    >> this here:
    >>
    >> I haven't tried the Adobe Web Photo Gallery before, and I'm stuck at
    >> the FTP stage. I went through the steps to create the gallery, and
    >> end up with a folder that I named Webup.
    >>
    >> Webup contains:
    >>
    >> Subfolder: Images (contains .jpgs)
    >> Subfolder: Pages
    >> Subfolder: Thumbnails (contains .jpgs)
    >> Index.html
    >>
    >> I use Brandyware's FreeFTP and my Earthlink web space. I can't figure
    >> out how to upload the entire folder Webup, so I have to upload the
    >> contents of Webup and each subfolder.
    >>
    >> When I go to http://(earthlinkaddress)/index.html I get my page with
    >> the links to the images, but clicking on the links gives me a page not
    >> found. Obviously, there's no links between index.html and the images
    >> that I've uploaded. It seems to me that all of the contents of the
    >> folder and subfolders should be in one uploaded file.
    >>
    >> If you can make any sense out of this, and see what I'm doing wrong,
    >> please advise.
    >>

    >Earthlink uses the unix operating system. It is sensitive to letter case.
    >
    >If you have a link to "zot.jpg" and the actual name is "Zot.jpg", it
    >will fail. Check that every link has the exact upper and lower case
    >as the actual file name.


    http://home.earthlink.net/~tony_cooper213/index.html works, but
    instead of thumbnails the links appear, and the links don't link.

    I have ftp'd a number of pages up with no problems. However, these
    have been pages of html with links. My links are in the page, but the
    Gallery has several folders that are created by Adobe.


    --
    Tony Cooper
    Orlando FL
    Tony Cooper, Jun 23, 2005
    #6
  7. Tony Cooper

    Tony Cooper Guest

    On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:53:35 GMT, "Jonathan N. Little"
    <> wrote:

    >Tony Cooper wrote:
    >> Since this group is probably familiar with the FTP process, I'll try
    >> this here:
    >>
    >> I haven't tried the Adobe Web Photo Gallery before, and I'm stuck at
    >> the FTP stage. I went through the steps to create the gallery, and
    >> end up with a folder that I named Webup.
    >>
    >> Webup contains:
    >>
    >> Subfolder: Images (contains .jpgs)
    >> Subfolder: Pages
    >> Subfolder: Thumbnails (contains .jpgs)
    >> Index.html
    >>
    >> I use Brandyware's FreeFTP and my Earthlink web space. I can't figure
    >> out how to upload the entire folder Webup, so I have to upload the
    >> contents of Webup and each subfolder.
    >>
    >> When I go to http://(earthlinkaddress)/index.html I get my page with
    >> the links to the images, but clicking on the links gives me a page not
    >> found. Obviously, there's no links between index.html and the images
    >> that I've uploaded. It seems to me that all of the contents of the
    >> folder and subfolders should be in one uploaded file.
    >>
    >> If you can make any sense out of this, and see what I'm doing wrong,
    >> please advise.
    >>

    >How are your links to your images coded? Relative paths or absolute of
    >your local folder on your hard drive (a common error)?
    >
    >ex:
    >
    >from www.domain.com/index.html
    >
    ><img src="Subfolder/pix.jpg"> (will work)
    ><img src="/Subfolder/pix.jpg"> (will also work if index.html is in your
    >document root)
    ><img
    >src="file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/You/Desktop/Subfolder/pix.jpg">
    >(this will obviously fail!)
    >
    >Also I noticed your listed your document as 'Index.html' If you build a
    >webpage on a Windows system it is case insensitive, i.e.,
    >
    >Index.html == index.html == INDEX.HTML == InDex.HtMl
    >
    >This is NOT the case with *nix based web servers and so if in the
    >webpage the image src is "Subfolder/pix.jpg" but the image is named
    >"Subfolder/pix.JPG" is could work locally on your Windows system but
    >fail when uploaded.


    I know I'm not explaining this clearly, but what you've said above
    would be relevant if I had created a page using html. I can do that,
    and get it to work fine.

    However, this is something created in Adobe Photoshop 7, and I don't
    write the tags. With the Adobe Web Gallery, you put images in a
    folder and Photoshop creates the pages. I don't have to write any
    tags in this program.

    My problem seems to be just FTPing the right folders so that they are
    linked.

    You might wonder at this point why I'd want to bother with Adobe Web
    Gallery if I can put up images on a site by writing my own page.
    Well, it's easy to share pictures with family by just dumping the
    images in a folder and hitting "Automate". Some text can be added,
    but it's basically just images in some standard templates. I use PS7
    quite a bit to tweak my photographs.

    Last....other people use Adobe Web Gallery with Earthlink, and it
    bothers me that I can't figure out how to do it when others can.





    --
    Tony Cooper
    Orlando FL
    Tony Cooper, Jun 23, 2005
    #7
  8. Tony Cooper wrote:
    > On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:45:07 +0100, "Joker7" <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >>"Tony Cooper" <> wrote in message
    >>news:...
    >>: Since this group is probably familiar with the FTP process, I'll try
    >>: this here:
    >>:
    >>
    >>Post url so we can see whats up
    >>

    >
    >
    > http://home.earthlink.net/~tony_cooper213/index.html
    >
    > This comes up, but the links don't link.
    >
    > If you're familiar with Adobe Gallery, what should appear with the
    > above are thumbnails which, when clicked, link to the larger image.
    >
    >

    First of all I would recommend that your *STOP* using Adobe Gallery to
    generate your html, it is really crappy code, a hodgepodge of inline
    style and legacy html.

    Next this is a snippet from the page:

    <A href =" pages/cacmd%20005.html"><FONT size="3" face="Arial" >
    ^
    |
    +---What's this space, a boo-boo!

    and this:

    cacmd 005.jpg</FONT>
    ^
    |
    +--- And this space

    Embedded space in file names and paths can cause all kinds of trouble,
    some OS's and servers can handle them, many do not.

    So is your folder really named '[space]pages' or just 'pages'? That
    '%20' in 'cacmd%20005.html' space in the filename...



    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
    Jonathan N. Little, Jun 23, 2005
    #8
  9. Tony Cooper

    Dennis Guest

    On 22 Jun 2005 Tony Cooper wrote in alt.html

    >
    > http://home.earthlink.net/~tony_cooper213/index.html
    >
    > This comes up, but the links don't link.


    First things first. Get your email address off your site or you will be
    getting a shit load of never ending spam!!!

    --
    Dennis
    Dennis, Jun 23, 2005
    #9
  10. Tony Cooper

    Dennis Guest

    On 22 Jun 2005 Tony Cooper wrote in alt.html

    > On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:45:07 +0100, "Joker7" <>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>"Tony Cooper" <> wrote in message
    >>news:...
    >>: Since this group is probably familiar with the FTP process, I'll try
    >>: this here:
    >>:
    >>
    >>Post url so we can see whats up
    >>

    >
    > http://home.earthlink.net/~tony_cooper213/index.html
    >
    > This comes up, but the links don't link.
    >
    > If you're familiar with Adobe Gallery, what should appear with the
    > above are thumbnails which, when clicked, link to the larger image.
    >
    >


    I kinda looks like you didn't upload your "pages' directory to the corect
    place. You have the 'webup' directory up there but with nothing in it. I
    would guess you broke the directory structure. In other words, things just
    arn't where they should be.

    --
    Dennis
    Dennis, Jun 23, 2005
    #10
  11. Tony Cooper

    Tony Cooper Guest

    On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:07:44 GMT, "Jonathan N. Little"
    <> wrote:

    >Tony Cooper wrote:
    >> On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:45:07 +0100, "Joker7" <>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>"Tony Cooper" <> wrote in message
    >>>news:...
    >>>: Since this group is probably familiar with the FTP process, I'll try
    >>>: this here:
    >>>:
    >>>
    >>>Post url so we can see whats up
    >>>

    >>
    >>
    >> http://home.earthlink.net/~tony_cooper213/index.html
    >>
    >> This comes up, but the links don't link.
    >>
    >> If you're familiar with Adobe Gallery, what should appear with the
    >> above are thumbnails which, when clicked, link to the larger image.
    >>
    >>

    >First of all I would recommend that your *STOP* using Adobe Gallery to
    >generate your html, it is really crappy code, a hodgepodge of inline
    >style and legacy html.
    >
    >Next this is a snippet from the page:
    >
    ><A href =" pages/cacmd%20005.html"><FONT size="3" face="Arial" >
    > ^
    > |
    > +---What's this space, a boo-boo!
    >
    >and this:
    >
    >cacmd 005.jpg</FONT>
    > ^
    > |
    > +--- And this space
    >
    >Embedded space in file names and paths can cause all kinds of trouble,
    >some OS's and servers can handle them, many do not.
    >
    >So is your folder really named '[space]pages' or just 'pages'? That
    >'%20' in 'cacmd%20005.html' space in the filename...


    All that aside, many people use Adobe Web Gallery as a convenient way
    to share images with family and a small group friends. It works for
    them, but it isn't working for me.

    If I want to do a web page, I can do it. There are situations where
    that is the way to go, and situations where a quick gallery is the way
    to go. There are other gallery programs available, and I could use
    them.

    Don't you understand, though, that there are times when you run up
    against a roadblock and you just get stubborn and decide "I'll figure
    this out."? That's where I am here.

    As to the above, I don't write the tags. They're generated by Adobe.




    --
    Tony Cooper
    Orlando FL
    Tony Cooper, Jun 23, 2005
    #11
  12. Tony Cooper

    Tony Cooper Guest

    On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:10:52 GMT, Dennis <> wrote:

    >On 22 Jun 2005 Tony Cooper wrote in alt.html
    >
    >>
    >> http://home.earthlink.net/~tony_cooper213/index.html
    >>
    >> This comes up, but the links don't link.

    >
    >First things first. Get your email address off your site or you will be
    >getting a shit load of never ending spam!!!


    The Gallery is sent just to friends and family via a link in email.
    My address is already available through newsgroups because I don't
    munge it. I already get a shit load of spam. I just filter and
    delete.


    --
    Tony Cooper
    Orlando FL
    Tony Cooper, Jun 23, 2005
    #12
  13. Tony Cooper

    Tony Cooper Guest

    On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:22:13 GMT, Dennis <> wrote:

    >On 22 Jun 2005 Tony Cooper wrote in alt.html
    >
    >> On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:45:07 +0100, "Joker7" <>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>
    >>>"Tony Cooper" <> wrote in message
    >>>news:...
    >>>: Since this group is probably familiar with the FTP process, I'll try
    >>>: this here:
    >>>:
    >>>
    >>>Post url so we can see whats up
    >>>

    >>
    >> http://home.earthlink.net/~tony_cooper213/index.html
    >>
    >> This comes up, but the links don't link.
    >>
    >> If you're familiar with Adobe Gallery, what should appear with the
    >> above are thumbnails which, when clicked, link to the larger image.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >I kinda looks like you didn't upload your "pages' directory to the corect
    >place. You have the 'webup' directory up there but with nothing in it. I
    >would guess you broke the directory structure. In other words, things just
    >arn't where they should be.


    Right. But how *should* I upload the folders?


    --
    Tony Cooper
    Orlando FL
    Tony Cooper, Jun 23, 2005
    #13
  14. Tony Cooper

    Dennis Guest

    On 22 Jun 2005 Jonathan N. Little wrote in alt.html

    > Next this is a snippet from the page:
    >
    > <A href =" pages/cacmd%20005.html"><FONT size="3" face="Arial" >
    > ^
    > |
    > +---What's this space, a boo-boo!



    I see no space there <A href="pages/cacmd%20005.html">

    --
    Dennis
    Dennis, Jun 23, 2005
    #14
  15. Tony Cooper

    Dennis Guest

    On 22 Jun 2005 Tony Cooper wrote in alt.html

    > On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 04:22:13 GMT, Dennis <> wrote:
    >
    >>On 22 Jun 2005 Tony Cooper wrote in alt.html
    >>
    >>> On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:45:07 +0100, "Joker7" <>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>>"Tony Cooper" <> wrote in message
    >>>>news:...
    >>>>: Since this group is probably familiar with the FTP process, I'll try
    >>>>: this here:
    >>>>:
    >>>>
    >>>>Post url so we can see whats up
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> http://home.earthlink.net/~tony_cooper213/index.html
    >>>
    >>> This comes up, but the links don't link.
    >>>
    >>> If you're familiar with Adobe Gallery, what should appear with the
    >>> above are thumbnails which, when clicked, link to the larger image.
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>I kinda looks like you didn't upload your "pages' directory to the corect
    >>place. You have the 'webup' directory up there but with nothing in it. I
    >>would guess you broke the directory structure. In other words, things

    just
    >>arn't where they should be.

    >
    > Right. But how *should* I upload the folders?
    >
    >

    I don't know anything about Brandyware's FreeFTP but if you can upload a
    folder named 'pages' than you should be able to upload your folder named
    'webup' with it's contents intact.


    --
    Dennis
    Dennis, Jun 23, 2005
    #15
  16. Tony Cooper

    Joker7 Guest

    "Tony Cooper" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    : On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:45:07 +0100, "Joker7" <>
    : wrote:
    :
    : http://home.earthlink.net/~tony_cooper213/index.html
    :
    : This comes up, but the links don't link.
    :
    : If you're familiar with Adobe Gallery, what should appear with the
    : above are thumbnails which, when clicked, link to the larger image.

    When you FTP to the site can you see dir: thumbnails & pages, if so where ?


    As the link is broken somewhere. One way to test this is to drop a
    index.html in each dir: with it's name then try to see it with your browser.

    Chris
    Joker7, Jun 23, 2005
    #16
  17. Dennis wrote:
    > On 22 Jun 2005 Jonathan N. Little wrote in alt.html
    >
    >
    >>Next this is a snippet from the page:
    >>
    >><A href =" pages/cacmd%20005.html"><FONT size="3" face="Arial" >
    >> ^
    >> |
    >> +---What's this space, a boo-boo!

    >
    >
    >
    > I see no space there <A href="pages/cacmd%20005.html">
    >


    Not on the thumbnail links, look further down the page where the links
    are repeated with the image filenames as the text in the link! The
    inconstancy alone speaks volumes!


    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
    Jonathan N. Little, Jun 23, 2005
    #17
  18. Dennis wrote:

    <snip>
    >>Right. But how *should* I upload the folders?
    >>
    >>

    >
    > I don't know anything about Brandyware's FreeFTP but if you can upload a
    > folder named 'pages' than you should be able to upload your folder named
    > 'webup' with it's contents intact.
    >
    >


    I use WS_FTP Pro and maintain several sites for years, they used to have
    a LE freeware version that I used for years before that. You can upload
    complete dir trees with no problem, even to Earthlink, did it for a
    client a while back....

    http://www.ftpplanet.com/downloadLE.asp


    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
    Jonathan N. Little, Jun 23, 2005
    #18
  19. Tony Cooper

    Tony Cooper Guest

    On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:22:25 GMT, "Jonathan N. Little"
    <> wrote:

    >Dennis wrote:
    >
    ><snip>
    >>>Right. But how *should* I upload the folders?
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> I don't know anything about Brandyware's FreeFTP but if you can upload a
    >> folder named 'pages' than you should be able to upload your folder named
    >> 'webup' with it's contents intact.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >I use WS_FTP Pro and maintain several sites for years, they used to have
    >a LE freeware version that I used for years before that. You can upload
    >complete dir trees with no problem, even to Earthlink, did it for a
    >client a while back....
    >
    >http://www.ftpplanet.com/downloadLE.asp



    OK, that did it. I downloaded a trial version of WS_FTP Pro and
    uploaded the entire group of files. The links now work perfectly.

    Evidently, the problem is with the FreeFTP program. It uploads files
    but not folders with the proper linkages. It's a good little free
    FTP program for uploading pages and .jpegs, but it has some
    limitations.

    I'm not sure that I like Adobe Web Gallery, but it became a challenge
    to figure out what the problem was. I can't stand unresolved problems
    like this. As a....hmmm...."mature"....adult, it bothers me that
    teenagers whiz through things that I have trouble figuring out. I'm
    determined to prove that I'm as smart as the average 14 year-old even
    if it involves going to newsgroups for assistance.

    Thanks for your help.








    --
    Tony Cooper
    Orlando FL
    Tony Cooper, Jun 23, 2005
    #19
  20. Tony Cooper

    Dennis Guest

    On 23 Jun 2005 Tony Cooper wrote in alt.html

    > I'm
    > determined to prove that I'm as smart as the average 14 year-old


    Good luck.

    --
    Dennis
    Dennis, Jun 23, 2005
    #20
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