grabbing a facebook group

[Uno]

My family completed an intervention this week by obtaining guardianship
of our uncle, who was being abused and defrauded. I'd like to thank
this forum for its forbearance of me during this difficult time and for
all of the contributions that made the technical part of this endeavor
successful.

I also coordinated this effort as the creator and administer of
"operation bonhoeffer," which is a secret facebook group populated by my
large and extended family. My more successful siblings had not had an
fb presence at all. This group gave us the ability to share information
in real time, but

now it's over and we want to put it in the books. I think that perl can
do anything a browser can do (is that correct), so I'd like to find a
way to serialize the data and take it down.

So how does one behave like a browser when there's a login and password
involved?

 

[Uno]

For Facebook data, you'll probably have better luck using their API than
trying to emulate a browser& scraping their pages. There's a module
for that:

<http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?Facebook>

If you're talking about a FB *user*, rather than a *group*, it's even
easier - they provide a tool to download a record of everything you've
done there, including copies of any images& videos you've posted.
Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be an equivalent tool for group
activity.

<https://www.facebook.com/help/?topic=download>

sherm--

Well, hot damn, sherm, I'm really pleased with my initial effort. I
went to a terminal and typed
cpan
install Facebook
, and it was doing it's thing, but telling me that it couldn't do
things, so I ctrl-C'ed out of that and typed
sudo cpan
install Facebook
, and think I'm sitting pretty:

Running make install
Prepending /home/dan/.cpan/build/Facebook-0.102-C7c3EJ/blib/arch
/home/dan/.cpan/build/Facebook-0.102-C7c3EJ/blib/lib to PERL5LIB for
'install'
Installing /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/Facebook.pm
Installing /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/Facebook/Manual.pod
Installing /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/Facebook/Signed.pm
Installing /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/Facebook/Cookie.pm
Installing /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/Facebook/Cookbook.pod
Installing /usr/local/man/man3/Facebook::Cookie.3pm
Installing /usr/local/man/man3/Facebook::Signed.3pm
Installing /usr/local/man/man3/Facebook.3pm
Installing /usr/local/man/man3/Facebook::Cookbook.3pm
Installing /usr/local/man/man3/Facebook::Manual.3pm
Appending installation info to /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1/perllocal.pod
FRANKS/Facebook-0.102.tar.gz
make install -- OK
Warning (usually harmless): 'YAML' not installed, will not store
persistent state

cpan[2]>

Why is my terminal always telling me that 'YAML' is not installed, while
python-yaml is?

 

[Uno]

I think facebook may well make extensive use of javascript and/or flash,
which will complicate your task.

BugBear

I'm able to complicate my task in any event:

$ ./fb1.pl
../fb1.pl: line 2: use: command not found
../fb1.pl: line 3: use: command not found
../fb1.pl: line 5: use: command not found
../fb1.pl: line 7: syntax error near unexpected token `('
../fb1.pl: line 7: ` my $fb = Facebook->new('
$ cat fb1.pl
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;

use Facebook;

my $fb = Facebook->new(
app_id => $app_id,
api_key => $api_key,
secret => $secret,
);

use Facebook::Signed;

my $logged_in_fb = Facebook->new(
signed => Facebook::Signed->new(
secret => $secret,
facebook_data => $facebook_cookie_for_your_application_as_text,
),
app_id => $app_id,
secret => $secret,
api_key => $api_key,
);

# If you dont provide secret, it will try to fetch it from signed values
my $shorter_logged_in_fb = Facebook->new(
signed => Facebook::Signed->new(
secret => $secret,
facebook_data => $facebook_cookie_for_your_application_as_text,
),
app_id => $app_id,
api_key => $api_key,
);

# You need to have Facebook::Graph installed so that this works
my $gettys_facebook_profile = $fb->graph->query
->find(100001153174797)
->include_metadata
->request
->as_hashref;

__END__

$

How does my interpreter all of a sudden not know what I mean when I say
"use?"

 

[C.DeRykus]

I'm able to complicate my task in any event:

$ ./fb1.pl
./fb1.pl: line 2: use: command not found
./fb1.pl: line 3: use: command not found
./fb1.pl: line 5: use: command not found
./fb1.pl: line 7: syntax error near unexpected token `('
./fb1.pl: line 7: `  my $fb = Facebook->new('
$ cat fb1.pl

  #!/usr/bin/perl

^^^^
^^^^
^^^^
Eliminate leading space above

 

[Martijn Lievaart]

I'm able to complicate my task in any event:

$ ./fb1.pl
./fb1.pl: line 2: use: command not found ./fb1.pl: line 3: use: command
not found ./fb1.pl: line 5: use: command not found ./fb1.pl: line 7:
syntax error near unexpected token `(' ./fb1.pl: line 7: ` my $fb =
Facebook->new(' $ cat fb1.pl
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;

Get rid of the spaces before the hash. Your shell does not see it needs
to start perl, so it is interpreted by the shell as a shell script.

M4

 

[Mart van de Wege]

$ ./fb1.pl
./fb1.pl: line 2: use: command not found
./fb1.pl: line 3: use: command not found
./fb1.pl: line 5: use: command not found
./fb1.pl: line 7: syntax error near unexpected token `('
./fb1.pl: line 7: ` my $fb = Facebook->new('
$ cat fb1.pl
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;

How does my interpreter all of a sudden not know what I mean when I
say "use?"

Because your system is trying to run a shell script instead of perl.

When you launch an executable text file, Linux will look at the first
two characters: if these are #!, then the rest of the line will be used
as the interpreter command to run the text file with. If the first two
characters are *not* #!, then the code will be run by your shell.

Now take a *good* look at your code. What are the first two characters?

Mart

 

[Uno]

Because your system is trying to run a shell script instead of perl.

When you launch an executable text file, Linux will look at the first
two characters: if these are #!, then the rest of the line will be used
as the interpreter command to run the text file with. If the first two
characters are *not* #!, then the code will be run by your shell.

Now take a *good* look at your code. What are the first two characters?

Mart

$ perl fb1.pl
Global symbol "$app_id" requires explicit package name at fb1.pl line 8.
Global symbol "$api_key" requires explicit package name at fb1.pl line 9.
Global symbol "$secret" requires explicit package name at fb1.pl line 10.
BEGIN not safe after errors--compilation aborted at fb1.pl line 13.
$

It was a single, white space. I find that white space is not your
friend in perl.

 

[Mart van de Wege]

$ perl fb1.pl
Global symbol "$app_id" requires explicit package name at fb1.pl line 8.
Global symbol "$api_key" requires explicit package name at fb1.pl line 9.
Global symbol "$secret" requires explicit package name at fb1.pl line 10.
BEGIN not safe after errors--compilation aborted at fb1.pl line 13.
$

It was a single, white space. I find that white space is not your
friend in perl.

When people do you the courtesy of patiently explaining how something
works, please do have the courtesy in return of actually *reading* what
they wrote.

Mart

 

[Uno]

Because YAML is a Perl module, and python-yaml is not.

sherm--

$ man YAML
$ ysh
No command 'ysh' found, but there are 25 similar ones
ysh: command not found
$ perl fb1.pl
Global symbol "$app_id" requires explicit package name at fb1.pl line 8.
Global symbol "$api_key" requires explicit package name at fb1.pl line 9.
Global symbol "$secret" requires explicit package name at fb1.pl line 10.
BEGIN not safe after errors--compilation aborted at fb1.pl line 13.
$ man Moose
$ cat fb1.pl
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;

use Facebook;

my $fb = Facebook->new(
app_id => $app_id,
api_key => $api_key,
secret => $secret,
);

use Facebook::Signed;

my $logged_in_fb = Facebook->new(
signed => Facebook::Signed->new(
secret => $secret,
facebook_data => $facebook_cookie_for_your_application_as_text,
),
app_id => $app_id,
secret => $secret,
api_key => $api_key,
);

# If you dont provide secret, it will try to fetch it from signed values
my $shorter_logged_in_fb = Facebook->new(
signed => Facebook::Signed->new(
secret => $secret,
facebook_data => $facebook_cookie_for_your_application_as_text,
),
app_id => $app_id,
api_key => $api_key,
);

# You need to have Facebook::Graph installed so that this works
my $gettys_facebook_profile = $fb->graph->query
->find(100001153174797)
->include_metadata
->request
->as_hashref;

__END__

$

I had hoped that getting YAML, Moose, Facebook::Signed and so forth was
going to help me resolve these 3 errors, but not so. Ideas?

 

[Uno]

When people do you the courtesy of patiently explaining how something
works, please do have the courtesy in return of actually *reading* what
they wrote.

Mart

Whatever, Mart, I think you overestimate your courtesy when you try to
tell me what I read. The first 2 characters were whitespace and then a
hash. Now I've got my shebang line correct and am moving on ....

 

[Uno]

That's enough for me.

So long.




You read it, but did not understand it!




... so there was no perl.

So there was no "white space in perl" anywhere in the thread.

$ cat fb1.pl
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;

Are you stoned? Tad, if either being correct or promoting the
discussion in c.l.p.misc is part of your job description, I think you
need to resign.

 

[Uri Guttman]

U> $ cat fb1.pl
U> #!/usr/bin/perl
U> use strict;

U> Are you stoned? Tad, if either being correct or promoting the
U> discussion in c.l.p.misc is part of your job description, I think you
U> need to resign.

wow. you win the prize for the thickest head i have seen here since
moronzilla graced us with its smell.

do you even understand how unix run script programs? or what the #!
means? or where it MUST be in the file to work? read the man pages on
exec and its cousins (the unix system calls, not perl's). then come back
on your knees and beg for forgiveness. whatever babbling you may do, it
is obvious that the bug you had there IS NOT A PERL PROBLEM. perl never
even gets to see that file. so how could it be a perl problem?

sorry, i used logic on you. i won't make that mistake again as it
doesn't penetrate.

wow.

uri

 

[Mart van de Wege]

U> $ cat fb1.pl
U> #!/usr/bin/perl
U> use strict;

U> Are you stoned? Tad, if either being correct or promoting the
U> discussion in c.l.p.misc is part of your job description, I think you
U> need to resign.

wow. you win the prize for the thickest head i have seen here since
moronzilla graced us with its smell.

do you even understand how unix run script programs? or what the #!
means?

No he doesn't. Not even after he had it explained to him in what I
*think* was fairly lucid English.

Which is why I was rather short with him in my second reply in this
thread.

I say, plonk the guy. He is a cargo cult coder who expends *no* effort
in understanding what he is copy/pasting, which means that it requires
double the effort to make him understand. It's not worth it.

Mart

 

[Uno]

No he doesn't. Not even after he had it explained to him in what I
*think* was fairly lucid English.

Which is why I was rather short with him in my second reply in this
thread.

I say, plonk the guy. He is a cargo cult coder who expends *no* effort
in understanding what he is copy/pasting, which means that it requires
double the effort to make him understand. It's not worth it.

Mart

Ich will nicht, dass du Dich in Verlegenheit bringst, da Dein Replik mir
geholfen hat.

Wer also "geplonkt" werde, das ist nicht Deine Sache.

 

[Uri Guttman]

U> $ cat fb1.pl
U> #!/usr/bin/perl
U> use strict;U> Are you stoned? Tad, if either being correct or promoting the
U> discussion in c.l.p.misc is part of your job description, I think you
U> need to resign.
MvdW> No he doesn't. Not even after he had it explained to him in what I
MvdW> *think* was fairly lucid English.

it was. shebang is a dud to him!

what i find amusing was in my days when i ported unix (bsd 4.1) i had
delved into the very kernel exec code that looked at the first two bytes
of a file for #! and then did the script exec instead of a binary
one. the concept of first two bytes seems very lost here and spaces do
count!

MvdW> I say, plonk the guy. He is a cargo cult coder who expends *no* effort
MvdW> in understanding what he is copy/pasting, which means that it requires
MvdW> double the effort to make him understand. It's not worth it.

i don't plonk in general but i can ignore him easily. i do like to read
idiotic posts for the amusement value.

uri

 

[Uno]

U> $ cat fb1.pl
U> #!/usr/bin/perl
U> use strict;
U> Are you stoned? Tad, if either being correct or promoting the
U> discussion in c.l.p.misc is part of your job description, I think you
U> need to resign.

MvdW> No he doesn't. Not even after he had it explained to him in what I
MvdW> *think* was fairly lucid English.

it was. shebang is a dud to him!

what i find amusing was in my days when i ported unix (bsd 4.1) i had
delved into the very kernel exec code that looked at the first two bytes
of a file for #! and then did the script exec instead of a binary
one. the concept of first two bytes seems very lost here and spaces do
count!

MvdW> I say, plonk the guy. He is a cargo cult coder who expends *no* effort
MvdW> in understanding what he is copy/pasting, which means that it requires
MvdW> double the effort to make him understand. It's not worth it.

i don't plonk in general but i can ignore him easily. i do like to read
idiotic posts for the amusement value.

uri

So you came on to my thread with multiplicity to tell me that you're
ignoring me?


You are the smallest of creatures in the open source movement, because I
think you're a con man.

 

[Uri Guttman]

U> $ cat fb1.pl
U> #!/usr/bin/perl
U> use strict;U> Are you stoned? Tad, if either being correct or promoting the
U> discussion in c.l.p.misc is part of your job description, I think you
U> need to resign.MvdW> No he doesn't. Not even after he had it explained to him in what I
MvdW> *think* was fairly lucid English.MvdW> I say, plonk the guy. He is a cargo cult coder who expends *no* effort
MvdW> in understanding what he is copy/pasting, which means that it requires
MvdW> double the effort to make him understand. It's not worth it.
U> So you came on to my thread with multiplicity to tell me that you're
U> ignoring me?

i do it as a warning to others that you are a doofus. and that is
putting it mildly.

U> You are the smallest of creatures in the open source movement,
U> because I think you're a con man.

wow, you claim you think. i disagree. your turn to prove you
think. think hard about that. oops. that must hurt you a lot. don't
think so hard then, it is more your style.

as for perl vs shebang, that should be put on thedailywtf.com. i am sure
it would be accepted and shoot to the top of the charts. one the the
dumbest comments on perl vs shell vs shebang i have ever seen.

uri

 

[Uno]

"Uno," get a grip. The space before the #! caused the OS to run the file
as a *shell script*. Once that happened, Perl wasn't involved at all.

I'd like to help you, but you're about one ill-informed rant away from
being permanently ignored here.

sherm--

You know, sherm, I've decided that c.l.p.misc has problems I don't want
to be a part of. Thanks for all your help.

 

[Uri Guttman]

U> You know, sherm, I've decided that c.l.p.misc has problems I don't
U> want to be a part of. Thanks for all your help.

please don't let the keyboard smack you on the way out.

you have been one of the dumbest posters here in a very long time. and
that includes quite a few people. you still don't even realize that perl
was never the problem and the space was the problem. until you get that,
you will never learn more coding.

uri

 

[Uno]

please don't let the keyboard smack you on the way out.

you have been one of the dumbest posters here in a very long time. and
that includes quite a few people. you still don't even realize that perl
was never the problem and the space was the problem. until you get that,
you will never learn more coding.

uri

So, Uri, what do you think of your contribution to my thread:

$ perl client9.pl

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U> $ cat fb1.pl
U> #!/usr/bin/perl
U> use strict;

U> Are you stoned? Tad, if either being correct or promoting the
U> discussion in c.l.p.misc is part of your job description, I think you
U> need to resign.

wow. you win the prize for the thickest head i have seen here since
moronzilla graced us with its smell.

do you even understand how unix run script programs? or what the #!
means? or where it MUST be in the file to work? read the man pages on
exec and its cousins (the unix system calls, not perl's). then come back
on your knees and beg for forgiveness. whatever babbling you may do, it
is obvious that the bug you had there IS NOT A PERL PROBLEM. perl never
even gets to see that file. so how could it be a perl problem?

sorry, i used logic on you. i won't make that mistake again as it
doesn't penetrate.

wow.

uri

--
Uri Guttman ------ (e-mail address removed) --------
http://www.sysarch.com --
----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support
------
--------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com
---------
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U> #!/usr/bin/perl
U> use strict;U> Are you stoned? Tad, if either being correct or promoting the
U> discussion in c.l.p.misc is part of your job description, I think you
U> need to resign.
MvdW> No he doesn't. Not even after he had it explained to him in what I
MvdW> *think* was fairly lucid English.

it was. shebang is a dud to him!

what i find amusing was in my days when i ported unix (bsd 4.1) i had
delved into the very kernel exec code that looked at the first two bytes
of a file for #! and then did the script exec instead of a binary
one. the concept of first two bytes seems very lost here and spaces do
count!

MvdW> I say, plonk the guy. He is a cargo cult coder who expends *no*
effort
MvdW> in understanding what he is copy/pasting, which means that it
requires
MvdW> double the effort to make him understand. It's not worth it.

i don't plonk in general but i can ignore him easily. i do like to read
idiotic posts for the amusement value.

uri

--
Uri Guttman ------ (e-mail address removed) --------
http://www.sysarch.com --
----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support
------
--------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com
---------
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U> $ cat fb1.pl
U> #!/usr/bin/perl
U> use strict;U> Are you stoned? Tad, if either being correct or promoting the
U> discussion in c.l.p.misc is part of your job description, I think you
U> need to resign.MvdW> No he doesn't. Not even after he had it explained to him in what I
MvdW> *think* was fairly lucid English.MvdW> I say, plonk the guy. He is a cargo cult coder who expends *no*
effort
MvdW> in understanding what he is copy/pasting, which means that it
requires
MvdW> double the effort to make him understand. It's not worth it.
U> So you came on to my thread with multiplicity to tell me that you're
U> ignoring me?

i do it as a warning to others that you are a doofus. and that is
putting it mildly.

U> You are the smallest of creatures in the open source movement,
U> because I think you're a con man.

wow, you claim you think. i disagree. your turn to prove you
think. think hard about that. oops. that must hurt you a lot. don't
think so hard then, it is more your style.

as for perl vs shebang, that should be put on thedailywtf.com. i am sure
it would be accepted and shoot to the top of the charts. one the the
dumbest comments on perl vs shell vs shebang i have ever seen.

uri

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U> You know, sherm, I've decided that c.l.p.misc has problems I don't
U> want to be a part of. Thanks for all your help.

please don't let the keyboard smack you on the way out.

you have been one of the dumbest posters here in a very long time. and
that includes quite a few people. you still don't even realize that perl
was never the problem and the space was the problem. until you get that,
you will never learn more coding.

uri