java for scripts

[balajee]

I am new bee to Java. Basically I am TCL pogrammer, write scripts to
automate interactive applications such as telnet,ftpetc. Can we use
Java
also for the same purpose? as scripting language for above
applications?

 

[markspace]

I am new bee to Java. Basically I am TCL pogrammer, write scripts to
automate interactive applications such as telnet,ftpetc. Can we use
Java
also for the same purpose? as scripting language for above
applications?

You can, somewhat, but Java is not a scripting language and doesn't
really work like TCL, Python, Perl, etc. Basically Java is a lot like C
or C++, not so much like TCL.

I'd encourage you to try Java. Make a small test that is similar to one
application that you have now, and see for yourself if Java really
brings any extra benefit.

 

[Arne Vajhøj]

I am new bee to Java. Basically I am TCL pogrammer, write scripts to
automate interactive applications such as telnet,ftpetc. Can we use
Java
also for the same purpose? as scripting language for above
applications?

The Java language is not really that well suited for the scripting
tasks you mention.

The Java platform support several scripting languages that
may be better for you.

Groovy, Python and JavaScript are some of the more popular.

Arne

PS: Note that Python for Java platform is called Jython.

 

[Daniel Pitts]

You can, somewhat, but Java is not a scripting language and doesn't
really work like TCL, Python, Perl, etc. Basically Java is a lot like C
or C++, not so much like TCL.

I'd encourage you to try Java. Make a small test that is similar to one
application that you have now, and see for yourself if Java really
brings any extra benefit.

I agree whole heartedly with markspace.

I just want to add that Java excels at long-running server processes,
and is decent at think-client GUIs. There is a relatively high constant
time overhead for starting up a JVM, which makes it less idea for
scripting situations, but it doesn't prevent it entirely.

Java really is a language designed for bigger programs, not few-liner ones.

 

[Arne Vajhøj]

Neither is the C++ language he asked about in that group.

I smell a troll...

Could be.

But in that case I would say a rather inefficient troll.

Arne

 

[balajee]

This thread has taken wrong direction. I posted in C++ forum also just
to look for right input. As I mentioned in other forum, we are just
evaluating the available options other than TCL and PERL. We choose
the better one among all the options. I have no idea about C++ and
Java. So, I posted in these forums. Any suggessions are welcome.

Thanks,
Balajee

 

[Arved Sandstrom]

This thread has taken wrong direction. I posted in C++ forum also just
to look for right input. As I mentioned in other forum, we are just
evaluating the available options other than TCL and PERL. We choose
the better one among all the options. I have no idea about C++ and
Java. So, I posted in these forums. Any suggessions are welcome.

Thanks,
Balajee

Don't leave out the shells, like the UNIX shells (sh, bash, ksh etc) and
Windows PowerShell. And on Mac OS X, in addition to having the UNIX
shells, you've got AppleScript. If you are targeting a specific
environment, which is often the case, these are very powerful options.

AHS

 

[Roedy Green]

I am new bee to Java. Basically I am TCL pogrammer, write scripts to
automate interactive applications such as telnet,ftpetc. Can we use
Java
also for the same purpose? as scripting language for above
applications?

see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/scripting.html

In particular have a look at the JSR 223 link.

 

[Arne Vajhøj]

This thread has taken wrong direction. I posted in C++ forum also just
to look for right input. As I mentioned in other forum, we are just
evaluating the available options other than TCL and PERL. We choose
the better one among all the options. I have no idea about C++ and
Java. So, I posted in these forums. Any suggessions are welcome.

Neither Java nor C++ is designed for these purposes. They can be
used, but I believe there are better languages.

I think you should look at Python. And Python can work very nicely with
Hava using Jython if you have a requirement for that.

Arne