MS_POSITIONING="GridLayout"

[tshad]

I was curious if MS_POSITIONING="GridLayout" is supported in the Body tag?

I was running DW using a page with this in it and it says it isn't supported
in the Body tag. It says "The MS_POSITIONING attribute of the Body tag is
not supported. [Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0, Microsoft Internet Explorer
5.5, Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0, Netscape Navigator 6.0, Netscape
Navigator 7.0]"

It does seem to work, however.

Thanks,

Tom

 

[Karl Seguin]

i believe it is strictly used by the designer (vs.net) and isn't a
web-browser thing...it should just be ignored by the webbrowsers....

You can see some info on it:
http://xl8.net/blog/posts/240.aspx

Karl

--
MY ASP.Net tutorials
http://www.openmymind.net/index.aspx - New and Improved (yes, the popup is
annoying)
http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more to
come!)

 

[tshad]

i believe it is strictly used by the designer (vs.net) and isn't a
web-browser thing...it should just be ignored by the webbrowsers....

So it isn't standard?

Is this another MS non-standard issue?

Tom

You can see some info on it:
http://xl8.net/blog/posts/240.aspx

Karl

--
MY ASP.Net tutorials
http://www.openmymind.net/index.aspx - New and Improved (yes, the popup is
annoying)
http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more to
come!)

I was curious if MS_POSITIONING="GridLayout" is supported in the Body
tag?

I was running DW using a page with this in it and it says it isn't supported
in the Body tag. It says "The MS_POSITIONING attribute of the Body tag
is
not supported. [Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0, Microsoft Internet Explorer
5.5, Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0, Netscape Navigator 6.0, Netscape
Navigator 7.0]"

It does seem to work, however.

Thanks,

Tom

 

[Karl Seguin]

I think you misunderstand...it isn't meant to be a browser attribute or
anything which effects IE/Netscape. It's meant to be a design-time
attribute. There is no standards around this...Macromedia uses its own
stuff (templates and the likes) and VS.Net makes use of it's own. It
doesn't effect the code which is outputted or how the browser behaves...just
effects how the tool you use (vs.net) works and creates the standard html
stuff...

Karl

--
MY ASP.Net tutorials
http://www.openmymind.net/index.aspx - New and Improved (yes, the popup is
annoying)
http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more to
come!)

i believe it is strictly used by the designer (vs.net) and isn't a
web-browser thing...it should just be ignored by the webbrowsers....

So it isn't standard?

Is this another MS non-standard issue?

Tom

You can see some info on it:
http://xl8.net/blog/posts/240.aspx

Karl

--
MY ASP.Net tutorials
http://www.openmymind.net/index.aspx - New and Improved (yes, the popup is
annoying)
http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more to
come!)

I was curious if MS_POSITIONING="GridLayout" is supported in the Body
tag?

I was running DW using a page with this in it and it says it isn't supported
in the Body tag. It says "The MS_POSITIONING attribute of the Body tag
is
not supported. [Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0, Microsoft Internet Explorer
5.5, Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0, Netscape Navigator 6.0, Netscape
Navigator 7.0]"

It does seem to work, however.

Thanks,

Tom

 

[bruce barker]

its just a custom attribute (allowed by html) that is used by the vs ide
html designer. its tell the ide you want absolute positioning style
attributes when you place control on the page. its the styple commands on
the control that implement the grid layout.

note: in general you should not use grid layout as it does not support
browsers with different screen reslutions or font sizes then the one
designed on.

-- bruce (sqlwork.com)


| "Karl Seguin" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net>
| wrote in message | >i believe it is strictly used by the designer (vs.net) and isn't a
| > web-browser thing...it should just be ignored by the webbrowsers....
|
| So it isn't standard?
|
| Is this another MS non-standard issue?
|
| Tom
| >
| > You can see some info on it:
| > http://xl8.net/blog/posts/240.aspx
| >
| > Karl
| >
| > --
| > MY ASP.Net tutorials
| > http://www.openmymind.net/index.aspx - New and Improved (yes, the popup
is
| > annoying)
| > http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more to
| > come!)
| > | >> I was curious if MS_POSITIONING="GridLayout" is supported in the Body
| >> tag?
| >>
| >> I was running DW using a page with this in it and it says it isn't
| > supported
| >> in the Body tag. It says "The MS_POSITIONING attribute of the Body tag
| >> is
| >> not supported. [Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0, Microsoft Internet
| > Explorer
| >> 5.5, Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0, Netscape Navigator 6.0, Netscape
| >> Navigator 7.0]"
| >>
| >> It does seem to work, however.
| >>
| >> Thanks,
| >>
| >> Tom
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|

 

[tshad]

its just a custom attribute (allowed by html) that is used by the vs ide
html designer. its tell the ide you want absolute positioning style
attributes when you place control on the page. its the styple commands on
the control that implement the grid layout.

note: in general you should not use grid layout as it does not support
browsers with different screen reslutions or font sizes then the one
designed on.

But this is the layout that VS set up when I created my grid.

I did notice that VS seems to use absolute for everything and DW using
sequential (not sure what you would call it - Flow?) setup.

I noticed that in DW, it would show the objects correctly, but would not
show the attributes that VS set:

<asp:Label ID="Label1" style="Z-INDEX: 101; LEFT: 312px; POSITION: absolute;
TOP: 80px" runat="server"
Width="120px">Label</asp:Label>

I am trying to figure out how to use both for my development. I use DW for
most of my work, but am going to need to use VS for my code-behind and
general classes. I need VS to compile the classes (I assume).

Tom

-- bruce (sqlwork.com)


| "Karl Seguin" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net>
| wrote in message | >i believe it is strictly used by the designer (vs.net) and isn't a
| > web-browser thing...it should just be ignored by the webbrowsers....
|
| So it isn't standard?
|
| Is this another MS non-standard issue?
|
| Tom
| >
| > You can see some info on it:
| > http://xl8.net/blog/posts/240.aspx
| >
| > Karl
| >
| > --
| > MY ASP.Net tutorials
| > http://www.openmymind.net/index.aspx - New and Improved (yes, the
popup
is
| > annoying)
| > http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more to
| > come!)
| > | >> I was curious if MS_POSITIONING="GridLayout" is supported in the Body
| >> tag?
| >>
| >> I was running DW using a page with this in it and it says it isn't
| > supported
| >> in the Body tag. It says "The MS_POSITIONING attribute of the Body
tag
| >> is
| >> not supported. [Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0, Microsoft Internet
| > Explorer
| >> 5.5, Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0, Netscape Navigator 6.0,
Netscape
| >> Navigator 7.0]"
| >>
| >> It does seem to work, however.
| >>
| >> Thanks,
| >>
| >> Tom
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Marina]

I would say grid layout cannot really be used for any production
application. It is there and it is the default, because VS wanted it to make
it easier and faster to build a page. But faster and easier isn't
necessarily better or more maintainable. And as you found out, it is a VS
only attribute, so it would be ignored by other software. Definitely use
flow layout only.

its just a custom attribute (allowed by html) that is used by the vs ide
html designer. its tell the ide you want absolute positioning style
attributes when you place control on the page. its the styple commands on
the control that implement the grid layout.

note: in general you should not use grid layout as it does not support
browsers with different screen reslutions or font sizes then the one
designed on.

But this is the layout that VS set up when I created my grid.

I did notice that VS seems to use absolute for everything and DW using
sequential (not sure what you would call it - Flow?) setup.

I noticed that in DW, it would show the objects correctly, but would not
show the attributes that VS set:

<asp:Label ID="Label1" style="Z-INDEX: 101; LEFT: 312px; POSITION:
absolute; TOP: 80px" runat="server"
Width="120px">Label</asp:Label>

I am trying to figure out how to use both for my development. I use DW
for most of my work, but am going to need to use VS for my code-behind and
general classes. I need VS to compile the classes (I assume).

Tom

-- bruce (sqlwork.com)


| "Karl Seguin" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net>
| wrote in message | >i believe it is strictly used by the designer (vs.net) and isn't a
| > web-browser thing...it should just be ignored by the webbrowsers....
|
| So it isn't standard?
|
| Is this another MS non-standard issue?
|
| Tom
| >
| > You can see some info on it:
| > http://xl8.net/blog/posts/240.aspx
| >
| > Karl
| >
| > --
| > MY ASP.Net tutorials
| > http://www.openmymind.net/index.aspx - New and Improved (yes, the
popup
is
| > annoying)
| > http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more
to
| > come!)
| > | >> I was curious if MS_POSITIONING="GridLayout" is supported in the
Body
| >> tag?
| >>
| >> I was running DW using a page with this in it and it says it isn't
| > supported
| >> in the Body tag. It says "The MS_POSITIONING attribute of the Body
tag
| >> is
| >> not supported. [Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0, Microsoft Internet
| > Explorer
| >> 5.5, Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0, Netscape Navigator 6.0,
Netscape
| >> Navigator 7.0]"
| >>
| >> It does seem to work, however.
| >>
| >> Thanks,
| >>
| >> Tom
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Tampa.NET Koder]

This is the exact senario that I have. I use DW for HTML editing and VS to
do codebehind and compiling. So I have both of them open up at the same
time. Remove the MS_Positioning Gridlayout attribute and just leave the
html editing to dreamweaver. VS sucks as a html editor. A little advice,
when you are editing in DW make sure in VS that the design view is close,
same goes if you are editing in VS close the view in DW.

its just a custom attribute (allowed by html) that is used by the vs ide
html designer. its tell the ide you want absolute positioning style
attributes when you place control on the page. its the styple commands on
the control that implement the grid layout.

note: in general you should not use grid layout as it does not support
browsers with different screen reslutions or font sizes then the one
designed on.

But this is the layout that VS set up when I created my grid.

I did notice that VS seems to use absolute for everything and DW using
sequential (not sure what you would call it - Flow?) setup.

I noticed that in DW, it would show the objects correctly, but would not
show the attributes that VS set:

<asp:Label ID="Label1" style="Z-INDEX: 101; LEFT: 312px; POSITION:
absolute; TOP: 80px" runat="server"
Width="120px">Label</asp:Label>

I am trying to figure out how to use both for my development. I use DW
for most of my work, but am going to need to use VS for my code-behind and
general classes. I need VS to compile the classes (I assume).

Tom

-- bruce (sqlwork.com)


| "Karl Seguin" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net>
| wrote in message | >i believe it is strictly used by the designer (vs.net) and isn't a
| > web-browser thing...it should just be ignored by the webbrowsers....
|
| So it isn't standard?
|
| Is this another MS non-standard issue?
|
| Tom
| >
| > You can see some info on it:
| > http://xl8.net/blog/posts/240.aspx
| >
| > Karl
| >
| > --
| > MY ASP.Net tutorials
| > http://www.openmymind.net/index.aspx - New and Improved (yes, the
popup
is
| > annoying)
| > http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more
to
| > come!)
| > | >> I was curious if MS_POSITIONING="GridLayout" is supported in the
Body
| >> tag?
| >>
| >> I was running DW using a page with this in it and it says it isn't
| > supported
| >> in the Body tag. It says "The MS_POSITIONING attribute of the Body
tag
| >> is
| >> not supported. [Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0, Microsoft Internet
| > Explorer
| >> 5.5, Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0, Netscape Navigator 6.0,
Netscape
| >> Navigator 7.0]"
| >>
| >> It does seem to work, however.
| >>
| >> Thanks,
| >>
| >> Tom
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|

 

[tshad]

I would say grid layout cannot really be used for any production
application. It is there and it is the default, because VS wanted it to
make it easier and faster to build a page. But faster and easier isn't
necessarily better or more maintainable. And as you found out, it is a VS
only attribute, so it would be ignored by other software. Definitely use
flow layout only.

How do I tell VS to do it this way?

Tom

its just a custom attribute (allowed by html) that is used by the vs ide
html designer. its tell the ide you want absolute positioning style
attributes when you place control on the page. its the styple commands
on
the control that implement the grid layout.

note: in general you should not use grid layout as it does not support
browsers with different screen reslutions or font sizes then the one
designed on.

But this is the layout that VS set up when I created my grid.

I did notice that VS seems to use absolute for everything and DW using
sequential (not sure what you would call it - Flow?) setup.

I noticed that in DW, it would show the objects correctly, but would not
show the attributes that VS set:

<asp:Label ID="Label1" style="Z-INDEX: 101; LEFT: 312px; POSITION:
absolute; TOP: 80px" runat="server"
Width="120px">Label</asp:Label>

I am trying to figure out how to use both for my development. I use DW
for most of my work, but am going to need to use VS for my code-behind
and general classes. I need VS to compile the classes (I assume).

Tom

-- bruce (sqlwork.com)


| "Karl Seguin" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME
net>
| wrote in message | >i believe it is strictly used by the designer (vs.net) and isn't a
| > web-browser thing...it should just be ignored by the webbrowsers....
|
| So it isn't standard?
|
| Is this another MS non-standard issue?
|
| Tom
| >
| > You can see some info on it:
| > http://xl8.net/blog/posts/240.aspx
| >
| > Karl
| >
| > --
| > MY ASP.Net tutorials
| > http://www.openmymind.net/index.aspx - New and Improved (yes, the
popup
is
| > annoying)
| > http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more
to
| > come!)
| > | >> I was curious if MS_POSITIONING="GridLayout" is supported in the
Body
| >> tag?
| >>
| >> I was running DW using a page with this in it and it says it isn't
| > supported
| >> in the Body tag. It says "The MS_POSITIONING attribute of the Body
tag
| >> is
| >> not supported. [Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0, Microsoft Internet
| > Explorer
| >> 5.5, Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0, Netscape Navigator 6.0,
Netscape
| >> Navigator 7.0]"
| >>
| >> It does seem to work, however.
| >>
| >> Thanks,
| >>
| >> Tom
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Marina]

It's a property in the Properties window. As someone else mentioned,
deleting the attribute entirely works too.

I would say grid layout cannot really be used for any production
application. It is there and it is the default, because VS wanted it to
make it easier and faster to build a page. But faster and easier isn't
necessarily better or more maintainable. And as you found out, it is a VS
only attribute, so it would be ignored by other software. Definitely use
flow layout only.

How do I tell VS to do it this way?

Tom

its just a custom attribute (allowed by html) that is used by the vs
ide
html designer. its tell the ide you want absolute positioning style
attributes when you place control on the page. its the styple commands
on
the control that implement the grid layout.

note: in general you should not use grid layout as it does not support
browsers with different screen reslutions or font sizes then the one
designed on.

But this is the layout that VS set up when I created my grid.

I did notice that VS seems to use absolute for everything and DW using
sequential (not sure what you would call it - Flow?) setup.

I noticed that in DW, it would show the objects correctly, but would not
show the attributes that VS set:

<asp:Label ID="Label1" style="Z-INDEX: 101; LEFT: 312px; POSITION:
absolute; TOP: 80px" runat="server"
Width="120px">Label</asp:Label>

I am trying to figure out how to use both for my development. I use DW
for most of my work, but am going to need to use VS for my code-behind
and general classes. I need VS to compile the classes (I assume).

Tom

-- bruce (sqlwork.com)


| "Karl Seguin" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME
net>
| wrote in message | >i believe it is strictly used by the designer (vs.net) and isn't a
| > web-browser thing...it should just be ignored by the
webbrowsers....
|
| So it isn't standard?
|
| Is this another MS non-standard issue?
|
| Tom
| >
| > You can see some info on it:
| > http://xl8.net/blog/posts/240.aspx
| >
| > Karl
| >
| > --
| > MY ASP.Net tutorials
| > http://www.openmymind.net/index.aspx - New and Improved (yes, the
popup
is
| > annoying)
| > http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more
to
| > come!)
| > | >> I was curious if MS_POSITIONING="GridLayout" is supported in the
Body
| >> tag?
| >>
| >> I was running DW using a page with this in it and it says it isn't
| > supported
| >> in the Body tag. It says "The MS_POSITIONING attribute of the
Body tag
| >> is
| >> not supported. [Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0, Microsoft
Internet
| > Explorer
| >> 5.5, Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0, Netscape Navigator 6.0,
Netscape
| >> Navigator 7.0]"
| >>
| >> It does seem to work, however.
| >>
| >> Thanks,
| >>
| >> Tom
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|

 

[tshad]

It's a property in the Properties window. As someone else mentioned,
deleting the attribute entirely works too.

That's much better.

Is the property for this page only? If so, is there a way to tell VS to
default to Flow all the time?

Thanks,

Tom

I would say grid layout cannot really be used for any production
application. It is there and it is the default, because VS wanted it to
make it easier and faster to build a page. But faster and easier isn't
necessarily better or more maintainable. And as you found out, it is a VS
only attribute, so it would be ignored by other software. Definitely use
flow layout only.

How do I tell VS to do it this way?

Tom

its just a custom attribute (allowed by html) that is used by the vs
ide
html designer. its tell the ide you want absolute positioning style
attributes when you place control on the page. its the styple commands
on
the control that implement the grid layout.

note: in general you should not use grid layout as it does not support
browsers with different screen reslutions or font sizes then the one
designed on.

But this is the layout that VS set up when I created my grid.

I did notice that VS seems to use absolute for everything and DW using
sequential (not sure what you would call it - Flow?) setup.

I noticed that in DW, it would show the objects correctly, but would
not show the attributes that VS set:

<asp:Label ID="Label1" style="Z-INDEX: 101; LEFT: 312px; POSITION:
absolute; TOP: 80px" runat="server"
Width="120px">Label</asp:Label>

I am trying to figure out how to use both for my development. I use DW
for most of my work, but am going to need to use VS for my code-behind
and general classes. I need VS to compile the classes (I assume).

Tom

-- bruce (sqlwork.com)


| "Karl Seguin" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME
net>
| wrote in message | >i believe it is strictly used by the designer (vs.net) and isn't a
| > web-browser thing...it should just be ignored by the
webbrowsers....
|
| So it isn't standard?
|
| Is this another MS non-standard issue?
|
| Tom
| >
| > You can see some info on it:
| > http://xl8.net/blog/posts/240.aspx
| >
| > Karl
| >
| > --
| > MY ASP.Net tutorials
| > http://www.openmymind.net/index.aspx - New and Improved (yes, the
popup
is
| > annoying)
| > http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ
(more to
| > come!)
| > | >> I was curious if MS_POSITIONING="GridLayout" is supported in the
Body
| >> tag?
| >>
| >> I was running DW using a page with this in it and it says it
isn't
| > supported
| >> in the Body tag. It says "The MS_POSITIONING attribute of the
Body tag
| >> is
| >> not supported. [Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0, Microsoft
Internet
| > Explorer
| >> 5.5, Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0, Netscape Navigator 6.0,
Netscape
| >> Navigator 7.0]"
| >>
| >> It does seem to work, however.
| >>
| >> Thanks,
| >>
| >> Tom
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|