PLEASE HELP

[postrishi]

Hello Folks,

I am doing my engineering in computer science.

I basically want to work in systems rather than in application.

But the main problem with me that i dont have adequate guidance and
till now i only have very preliminary knowlede of c/c++.

I can write any program related to application but i dont have any idea
about what is system programming all about and how should i proceed
about it.

Please help me as i am very desperate about it.

 

[Richard Heathfield]

(e-mail address removed) said:

Hello Folks,

I am doing my engineering in computer science.

I basically want to work in systems rather than in application.

But the main problem with me that i dont have adequate guidance and
till now i only have very preliminary knowlede of c/c++.

I can write any program related to application but i dont have any idea
about what is system programming all about and how should i proceed
about it.

The distinction is an artificial one. Programming is programming. If you can
truly write any program related to "applications", then just think of the
operating system as an application.

 

[santosh]

Hello Folks,

I am doing my engineering in computer science.

I basically want to work in systems rather than in application.

But the main problem with me that i dont have adequate guidance and
till now i only have very preliminary knowlede of c/c++.

So read and practise more. Get a copy of The C Programming Language
(2nd Ed.) by Kernighan & Ritchie and go through it.

I can write any program related to application but i dont have any idea
about what is system programming all about and how should i proceed
about it.

Please help me as i am very desperate about it.

Ask a local counselor or CS instructor for advice.

If your strong on logic and mathematics, the details are easy to pick
up with time.

 

[raxitsheth2000]

Learn Assembly Language/C (for OO learn oo oncepts and any oo lang.)
Master Data Structure and Algo.
Computer Arch and OS
study atleast x86 based any simple architecture.


after concept clear in above

learn how to debug.
refer good news group.(as they are more than text books)
refer good opensource System Programs
Design/Write your own code


--raxit

 

[santosh]

(e-mail address removed) wrote:
<snip>
Please don't top post. See below:
<http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html>
<http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/>
<clc-wiki.net/>

 

[Bob Martin]

dont give free advice without thinking.
dont try to be oversmart.

--raxit

I'm sick of this top-posting / bottom-posting fascism.
Let people do what they want, I can handle it.

 

[raxitsheth2000]

dont give free advice without thinking.
dont try to be oversmart.

--raxit

 

[Chris Dollin]

dont give free advice without thinking.

Please don't top-post.

dont try to be oversmart.

`try` is off-topic on comp.lang.c.

 

[CBFalconer]

dont give free advice without thinking.
dont try to be oversmart.

Please do not top-post. Read the following links:

--
Some informative links:
< <http://www.geocities.com/nnqweb/>
<http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html>
<http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html>
<http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html>
<http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/>

 

[Kenny McCormack]

I'm sick of this top-posting / bottom-posting fascism.
Let people do what they want, I can handle it.

It is just a small part of the general fascism that is this newsgroup.
I'd get used to it, if I were you (and planned to stick around).

 

[Default User]

dont give free advice without thinking.
dont try to be oversmart.

*plonk*



Brian

 

[Default User]

Bob Martin wrote:

I'm sick of this top-posting / bottom-posting fascism.
Let people do what they want, I can handle it.

No.




Brian

 

[Kenny McCormack]

Bob Martin wrote:




No.

Keep in mind that this "DefaultUser/Brian" creature is a bona fide
anti-top-posting fanatic. You'll get no quarter from him.

He got into quite a chick fight a month or so ago with some of the
esteemed regulars over this.

 

[Bob Martin]

It is just a small part of the general fascism that is this newsgroup.
I'd get used to it, if I were you (and planned to stick around).

I'll stick around as long as I can, but I'm getting on a bit ;-)

 

[Keith Thompson]

dont give free advice without thinking.
dont try to be oversmart.

--raxit

Insulting someone who gives you good advice is foolish.

I'm sure santosh gave you his valuable free advice after thinking
about it. I have no idea what "oversmart" means, but you might try it
yourself.

 

[dcorbit]

Keep in mind that this "DefaultUser/Brian" creature is a bona fide
anti-top-posting fanatic. You'll get no quarter from him.

He got into quite a chick fight a month or so ago with some of the
esteemed regulars over this.

Yes. He seems to be fighting a losing battle to ensure that courtesy
is maintained.
Nettiquette is part of USENET courtesy. See (for example):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting

For me, sometimes I don't have a problem with top-posting (e.g. when
you are replying to a single line and it is directly below your post).
On the other hand, as a habit -- and when a tiny response is posted
above a large message -- I find it quite annoying. This is especially
the case when the bit that they are replying to is buried somewhere
down deep in the message.

BTW, he (Brian) is a highly intelligent and valuable poster. I read
everything that he writes.

The history of is one of pedantry. Many posters view
this as something bad. Personally, I think it keeps the group accurate
and focused.

IMO-YMMV.

 

[Keith Thompson]

Kenny McCormack wrote: [the usual]
Yes. He seems to be fighting a losing battle to ensure that courtesy
is maintained.
Nettiquette is part of USENET courtesy. See (for example):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting

[...]

Kenny McCormack is a self-proclaimed troll. I suggest that this
newsgroup is best served by completely ignoring him. If he's starved
of the attention he seems to crave, he just might go away, but even if
he doesn't, the newsgroup will be a more pleasant place for those who
have wisely killfiled him. In short, please don't feed the troll.

 

[Richard Heathfield]

Keith Thompson said:

Kenny McCormack wrote: [the usual]
Yes. He seems to be fighting a losing battle to ensure that courtesy
is maintained.
Nettiquette is part of USENET courtesy. See (for example):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting

[...]

Kenny McCormack is a self-proclaimed troll.

I've been around comp.lang.c for long enough to know that you've been
around comp.lang.c for long enough to know that Dann Corbit has been around
comp.lang.c for long enough to know this already.

 

[Kenny McCormack]

Kenny McCormack wrote: [the usual]
Yes. He seems to be fighting a losing battle to ensure that courtesy
is maintained.
Nettiquette is part of USENET courtesy. See (for example):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting

[...]

Kenny McCormack is a self-proclaimed troll. I suggest that this
newsgroup is best served by completely ignoring him. If he's starved
of the attention he seems to crave, he just might go away, but even if
he doesn't, the newsgroup will be a more pleasant place for those who
have wisely killfiled him. In short, please don't feed the troll.

Still can't let it go, can you?

 

[Kenny McCormack]

Keith Thompson said:

Kenny McCormack wrote: [the usual]
Yes. He seems to be fighting a losing battle to ensure that courtesy
is maintained.
Nettiquette is part of USENET courtesy. See (for example):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting

[...]

Kenny McCormack is a self-proclaimed troll.

I've been around comp.lang.c for long enough to know that you've been
around comp.lang.c for long enough to know that Dann Corbit has been around
comp.lang.c for long enough to know this already.

Yabbut, that's just the problem. KT is just not biologically capable of
leaving it be - that is, of letting it lie there and getting on with his
life.