Python job opening at GPO in Washington, DC

Discussion in 'Python' started by Stephen Ferg, Mar 3, 2004.

  1. Stephen Ferg

    Stephen Ferg Guest

    For more info:

    http://jobsearch.usajobs.opm.gov/ge...ogo=0&col=dltc&cy=&brd=3876&lid=&fn=&q=python

    I just saw this opening posted. It is a Federal government position
    (GS-13) at the Government Printing Office, Washington, DC, right
    across the street from where I work.

    1. Extensive knowledge of object-oriented programming.
    2. Extensive knowledge of XML and XSLT.
    3. Extensive knowledge of Linux/Unix Operating Systems.
    4. Extensive knowledge of either the Python and/or C Sharp language.
    5. Expert knowledge of operating systems and programming languages in
    order to write and debug complex computer programs.
    6. Ability to write detailed specifications for any new application
    need by the department.

    -- Steve Ferg ()
     
    Stephen Ferg, Mar 3, 2004
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  2. Stephen Ferg

    Nick Vargish Guest

    I've been way behind on reading this newsgroup, but I see someone
    noticed the posting for someone who will be my co-worker and partner
    in advocacy...

    (Stephen Ferg) writes:

    > I just saw this opening posted. It is a Federal government position
    > (GS-13) at the Government Printing Office, Washington, DC, right
    > across the street from where I work.


    We just got to interviewing for this position (government schedule,
    obviously) and there were very few applicants with real-world Python
    experience. Maybe I should have campaigned more heavily on this
    newsgroup.

    I've been working to get Python accepted here at GPO, my main
    arguments have been maintainability, portability, and developer
    productivity.

    Nick

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    Nick Vargish, May 7, 2004
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  3. Stephen Ferg

    William Park Guest

    Nick Vargish <> wrote:
    > I've been way behind on reading this newsgroup, but I see someone
    > noticed the posting for someone who will be my co-worker and partner
    > in advocacy...
    >
    > (Stephen Ferg) writes:
    >
    > > I just saw this opening posted. It is a Federal government position
    > > (GS-13) at the Government Printing Office, Washington, DC, right
    > > across the street from where I work.

    >
    > We just got to interviewing for this position (government schedule,
    > obviously) and there were very few applicants with real-world Python
    > experience. Maybe I should have campaigned more heavily on this
    > newsgroup.
    >
    > I've been working to get Python accepted here at GPO, my main
    > arguments have been maintainability, portability, and developer
    > productivity.


    Hmmm, you're trying to convince your boss to do with less budget. So,
    he goes to his boss and says, "My IT budget was $10Million last year,
    but just give me $1Million this year. I've got Python." I don't think
    ANY government works this way. :)

    What you should say is, "With Python (and Linux), we can outperform
    other departments with only %10 of our current resource. Pretty soon,
    we can take over their duties and their budgets. Our department will
    grow 5 folds in 2 years."

    --
    William Park, Open Geometry Consulting, <>
    Linux solution/training/migration, Thin-client
     
    William Park, May 7, 2004
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  4. Stephen Ferg

    Nick Vargish Guest

    William Park <> writes:

    > Hmmm, you're trying to convince your boss to do with less budget. So,
    > he goes to his boss and says, "My IT budget was $10Million last year,
    > but just give me $1Million this year. I've got Python." I don't think
    > ANY government works this way. :)


    Or any IT department, not just government, in any large organization.

    There's also fewer training courses to budget for, and fewer
    vendor-sponsored conferences to attend. Sure, we can only accept gifts
    under $30, but the competition is much fiercer since the stakes are so
    much smaller.

    Nonetheless, my boss is actually very interested in Python, because
    he's interested in building sustainable systems. He's spent enough
    time nursing along proprietary systems that have become both
    entrenched and orphaned that he's sick and tired of it.

    > What you should say is, "With Python (and Linux), we can outperform
    > other departments with only %10 of our current resource. Pretty soon,
    > we can take over their duties and their budgets. Our department will
    > grow 5 folds in 2 years."


    I've heard worse strategies. My immediate boss might be able to sell
    my efforts to _his_ boss with that kind of approach.

    Nick

    --
    # sigmask || 0.2 || 20030107 || public domain || feed this to a python
    print reduce(lambda x,y:x+chr(ord(y)-1),' Ojdl!Wbshjti!=obwAcboefstobudi/psh?')
     
    Nick Vargish, May 10, 2004
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  5. Stephen Ferg

    William Park Guest

    Nick Vargish <> wrote:
    > Nonetheless, my boss is actually very interested in Python, because
    > he's interested in building sustainable systems. He's spent enough
    > time nursing along proprietary systems that have become both
    > entrenched and orphaned that he's sick and tired of it.


    Ahh, but those complaints are not really complaint. They are job
    security for your coworkers and the boss who manages them. Pretty soon,
    you would be labelled as "not a team player" by your coworkers and
    "trouble maker" by your union rep. :)

    I wish you good luck. It's shame that they don't use LaTeX or shell
    scripts.

    --
    William Park, Open Geometry Consulting, <>
    Linux solution/training/migration, Thin-client
     
    William Park, May 10, 2004
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  6. Stephen Ferg

    Nick Vargish Guest

    William Park <> writes:

    > I wish you good luck. It's shame that they don't use LaTeX or shell
    > scripts.


    Traditionally it's been SGML, currently in transition to XML, with an
    in-house typesetting application. Rumor has it that SVG is being
    considered as the new page description language, and XSLT will be the
    engine that drives this bus. However, I'm certainly not at a pay grade
    that entitles me to make any predictions about what we'll wind up
    working with.

    This wouldn't be the first place where my fondness for things that
    work has gotten me into trouble -- I'm used to it.

    Nick

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    # sigmask || 0.2 || 20030107 || public domain || feed this to a python
    print reduce(lambda x,y:x+chr(ord(y)-1),' Ojdl!Wbshjti!=obwAcboefstobudi/psh?')
     
    Nick Vargish, May 10, 2004
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  7. On 10 May 2004 15:33:58 -0400,
    Nick Vargish <> wrote:

    > This wouldn't be the first place where my fondness for things
    > that work has gotten me into trouble ...


    I nominate that as Quote of the Week.

    Regards,
    Heather

    --
    Heather Coppersmith
    That's not right; that's not even wrong. -- Wolfgang Pauli
     
    Heather Coppersmith, May 11, 2004
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