Question about programming jobs.

Discussion in 'Java' started by Javier, Dec 17, 2006.

  1. Javier

    Javier Guest

    Hello

    I do not know if this question might sound out of place here but I
    really need help and I think in here I can
    find answers to my situation.I am doing an associate degree in
    programming, and my question is if is enough to find a job in the IT
    field with this qualification, or if I would be better off doing a
    bachelor in computer sciences, because each time I do a job search I
    almost always find that the requirement is a bachelor degree, and
    knowledge in different programming languages,and: html, css,xlm, linux,
    etc. Do you think I am right when I think that it is better to finish
    the associate degree and know how to work with different programming
    languages, etc, or to do a bachelor where I would have a higher degree
    but not enough knowledge about programming, also I would like to know
    if is true that the programming field is poor in the US due to
    outsourcing, and that is not a very good option as a career( some
    people have said that to me, and also let me specify this people are
    not int the IT field so I am not sure if I should trust their opinions)
    I do not know anybody in the field, so I would really appreciate your
    opinions, I am really going crazy here being not sure which path to
    take.

    Thank you in advance.
    Javier
    Javier, Dec 17, 2006
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    Adam Maass Guest

    "Javier" <> wrote:
    > Hello
    >
    > I do not know if this question might sound out of place here but I
    > really need help and I think in here I can
    > find answers to my situation.I am doing an associate degree in
    > programming, and my question is if is enough to find a job in the IT
    > field with this qualification, or if I would be better off doing a
    > bachelor in computer sciences, because each time I do a job search I
    > almost always find that the requirement is a bachelor degree, and
    > knowledge in different programming languages,and: html, css,xlm, linux,
    > etc. Do you think I am right when I think that it is better to finish
    > the associate degree and know how to work with different programming
    > languages, etc, or to do a bachelor where I would have a higher degree
    > but not enough knowledge about programming, also I would like to know
    > if is true that the programming field is poor in the US due to
    > outsourcing, and that is not a very good option as a career( some
    > people have said that to me, and also let me specify this people are
    > not int the IT field so I am not sure if I should trust their opinions)
    > I do not know anybody in the field, so I would really appreciate your
    > opinions, I am really going crazy here being not sure which path to
    > take.
    >


    IMHO, take the bachelor's path.

    The days of the simple programmer -- getting by on a programming language or
    two -- aren't exactly over, but fading in the United States. Better to have
    some Software Engineering skills, and knowledge of how to work with remote
    teams. The particular skills aren't as important as the knowledge of how to
    get a running system that meets requirements on time and under budget.

    India isn't as inexpensive as it once was, but it well esconced in the
    industry, and won't be going away for a good long time, if ever.

    -- Adam Maass
    Adam Maass, Dec 18, 2006
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  3. Javier

    Guest

    > IMHO, take the bachelor's path.
    >
    > The days of the simple programmer -- getting by on a programming language or
    > two -- aren't exactly over, but fading in the United States. Better to have
    > some Software Engineering skills, and knowledge of how to work with remote
    > teams. The particular skills aren't as important as the knowledge of how to
    > get a running system that meets requirements on time and under budget.
    >
    > India isn't as inexpensive as it once was, but it well esconced in the
    > industry, and won't be going away for a good long time, if ever.
    >
    > -- Adam Maass


    The U.S. department of labor has good data on this. The "software
    engineer"
    has a bright future in the U.S. There are many openings and its one of
    the
    highest rated jobs in the next ten years. "Computer programmers" have
    one of the least bright outlooks. They are set in the bottom tier of
    future potential.

    The difference is that a software engineer interacts with people,
    translates requirements into code and has the skills to bring a project
    to completion. A programmer sits in a cube and
    writes code from provided specifications. There are statistics and
    education suggestions for each.

    http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos267.htm
    http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos110.htm
    , Dec 18, 2006
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  4. Javier

    Taria Guest

    All in all, I'd say the bachelor's degree is the way to go, at least.
    The job market is far too competitive with ppl with degrees of all
    types out there.

    As far as 'computer programmer' goes, that's true, it's the lowest
    level of entry in the programming market but it's the common way most
    ppl start their computer career right out of college. The really
    bright ones move on to software engineering or consultants, what have
    you. This is true for any industry you choose, generally speaking that
    is.

    Go for the gold! Get a bachelors, the extra 2 years is worth the
    investment. (and if you can muster a masters, it doesn't hurt.)



    wrote:
    > > IMHO, take the bachelor's path.
    > >
    > > The days of the simple programmer -- getting by on a programming language or
    > > two -- aren't exactly over, but fading in the United States. Better to have
    > > some Software Engineering skills, and knowledge of how to work with remote
    > > teams. The particular skills aren't as important as the knowledge of how to
    > > get a running system that meets requirements on time and under budget.
    > >
    > > India isn't as inexpensive as it once was, but it well esconced in the
    > > industry, and won't be going away for a good long time, if ever.
    > >
    > > -- Adam Maass

    >
    > The U.S. department of labor has good data on this. The "software
    > engineer"
    > has a bright future in the U.S. There are many openings and its one of
    > the
    > highest rated jobs in the next ten years. "Computer programmers" have
    > one of the least bright outlooks. They are set in the bottom tier of
    > future potential.
    >
    > The difference is that a software engineer interacts with people,
    > translates requirements into code and has the skills to bring a project
    > to completion. A programmer sits in a cube and
    > writes code from provided specifications. There are statistics and
    > education suggestions for each.
    >
    > http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos267.htm
    > http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos110.htm
    Taria, Dec 18, 2006
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