"Subscribing" to topics?

H

hg

Mizipzor said:
Is there a way to "subscribe" to individual topics? im currently
getting bombarded with daily digests and i wish to only receive a mail
when there is activity in a topic that interests me. Can this be done?

Thanks in advance.
Use a news reader and leave the mailing list

hg
 
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Mizipzor

Is there a way to "subscribe" to individual topics? im currently
getting bombarded with daily digests and i wish to only receive a mail
when there is activity in a topic that interests me. Can this be done?

Thanks in advance.
 
S

Stef Mientki

Mizipzor said:
Is there a way to "subscribe" to individual topics? im currently
getting bombarded with daily digests and i wish to only receive a mail
when there is activity in a topic that interests me. Can this be done?

Thanks in advance.

I'm relative new (couple of months),
and although there seems already to be a few different categories,
I see a lot of posts of experienced users,
that completely ignore these differences
(or perhaps I don't understand a bit of it ;-).

[ANN] is this group, I thought we had:
(e-mail address removed)
(e-mail address removed)
Scipy questions, I thought we had:
(e-mail address removed)
Delphi, I thought we had:
(e-mail address removed)
Probably there are a number of other groups
(would be nice to have a list of these)

here is the description list that I'm subscribed for many years,
that uses good defined topics
http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/index.htm
It has one major disadvantage for newbies,
if a message without the proper tag arrives,
it is blocked and can be manual added to the list by the moderator.

cheers,
(and sorry for all the stupid newbie posts,
which probably is not of your interest ;-)
Stef Mientki
 
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Mizipzor

Use a news reader and leave the mailing list

hg

I searhed around a little and it seems that not only do i need a
newsreader, i need a newsserver to. To fetch all the messages from
here. I learned that sometimes the ISP provides one, however, mine do
not. But then I discovered that Google has a free newsserver, so I
joined this group from there. Sadly, I cant see a feature here that
lets me subscribe to an individual topic, so if anyone else is using
Google groups and know how to do something like this, please tell
me. :)
 
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Jeffrey Froman

Mizipzor said:
I discovered that Google has a free newsserver, so I
joined this group from there. Sadly, I cant see a feature here that
lets me subscribe to an individual topic, so if anyone else is using
Google groups and know how to do something like this, please tell
me.

I don't know about Google Groups, but you may be able to accomplish what you
want to do with "filters" provided by your newsreader software.


Jeffrey
 
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Toby A Inkster

Mizipzor said:
I searhed around a little and it seems that not only do i need a
newsreader, i need a newsserver to. To fetch all the messages from
here. I learned that sometimes the ISP provides one, however, mine do
not. But then I discovered that Google has a free newsserver, so I
joined this group from there.

You discovered wrong -- Google does not provide a free newsserver. They no
doubt *have* several newsservers, but don't provide direct access to them
either free, or for a fee. They only provide a web interface to access the
contents of their newsservers, with a fraction of the features that a real
newsreader would.

You seem to already have a newsreader -- you're using Opera, which
includes a fairly good one, hidden away in the Hotlist/Panels/whatever-
they're-calling-it-today. Other newsreaders I'd recommend are PAN and
Forte Agent.

So you just need a server. "pubnews.gradwell.net" still seems to exist --
it's free. Alternatively, "news.individual.net" offers a good service for
a fairly low yearly cost.

--
Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
Contact Me ~ http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact
Geek of ~ HTML/CSS/Javascript/SQL/Perl/PHP/Python*/Apache/Linux

* = I'm getting there!
 
D

Dennis Lee Bieber

Is there a way to "subscribe" to individual topics? im currently
getting bombarded with daily digests and i wish to only receive a mail
when there is activity in a topic that interests me. Can this be done?
You might try using GMANE... It takes a number of mailing lists and
gives access as if they were newsgroups, so a proper newsreader can
perform filtering of message threads. comp.lang.python is gatewayed
between newsgroup and a mailing list.

The other possibility would be to change from digest mode to
individual message mode, and set up kill filters in your mail client for
those threads you aren't interested in. I would hope that the mailing
list manager is capable of changing the options.
--
Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG
(e-mail address removed) (e-mail address removed)
HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/
(Bestiaria Support Staff: (e-mail address removed))
HTTP://www.bestiaria.com/
 
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Mizipzor

You discovered wrong -- Google does not provide a free newsserver. They no
doubt *have* several newsservers, but don't provide direct access to them
either free, or for a fee. They only provide a web interface to access the
contents of their newsservers, with a fraction of the features that a real
newsreader would.

Hehe, it has all the features I knew existed in a newsreader, except
this "subscribe to topic" thing Im looking for.
You seem to already have a newsreader -- you're using Opera, which
includes a fairly good one, hidden away in the Hotlist/Panels/whatever-
they're-calling-it-today. Other newsreaders I'd recommend are PAN and
Forte Agent.

Did I mention I use Opera? I do anyway, it was just days ago I made
the switch from Firefox. I found their mail-/newsreader client but
since I didnt know what to type in the server settings of the
newsreader, my search continued.
So you just need a server. "pubnews.gradwell.net" still seems to exist --
it's free. Alternatively, "news.individual.net" offers a good service for
a fairly low yearly cost.

So should "pubnews.gradwell.net" go in both Incoming and Outgoing
server fields?
 
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Dennis Lee Bieber

Did I mention I use Opera? I do anyway, it was just days ago I made
the switch from Firefox. I found their mail-/newsreader client but

A sampling of the headers of your post:
From: "Mizipzor" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Subject: Re: "Subscribing" to topics?
Date: 4 Feb 2007 13:12:45 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com
said:
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
User-Agent: G2/1.0
X-HTTP-UserAgent: Opera/9.10 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
Complaints-To: (e-mail address removed)

Note the "UserAgent" line... <G>
--
Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG
(e-mail address removed) (e-mail address removed)
HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/
(Bestiaria Support Staff: (e-mail address removed))
HTTP://www.bestiaria.com/
 
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John Nagle

I'm running a website page through BeautifulSoup. It parses OK
with Python 2.4, but Python 2.5 fails with an exception:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "./sitetruth/InfoSitePage.py", line 268, in httpfetch
self.pagetree = BeautifulSoup.BeautifulSoup(sitetext) # parse into tree form
File "./sitetruth/BeautifulSoup.py", line 1326, in __init__
BeautifulStoneSoup.__init__(self, *args, **kwargs)
File "./sitetruth/BeautifulSoup.py", line 973, in __init__
self._feed()
File "./sitetruth/BeautifulSoup.py", line 998, in _feed
SGMLParser.feed(self, markup or "")
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/sgmllib.py", line 99, in feed
self.goahead(0)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/sgmllib.py", line 133, in goahead
k = self.parse_starttag(i)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/sgmllib.py", line 291, in parse_starttag
self.finish_starttag(tag, attrs)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/sgmllib.py", line 340, in finish_starttag
self.handle_starttag(tag, method, attrs)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/sgmllib.py", line 376, in handle_starttag
method(attrs)
File "./sitetruth/BeautifulSoup.py", line 1416, in start_meta
self._feed(self.declaredHTMLEncoding)
File "./sitetruth/BeautifulSoup.py", line 998, in _feed
SGMLParser.feed(self, markup or "")
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/sgmllib.py", line 99, in feed
self.goahead(0)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/sgmllib.py", line 133, in goahead
k = self.parse_starttag(i)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/sgmllib.py", line 285, in parse_starttag
self._convert_ref, attrvalue)
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xa7 in position 0: ordinal
not in range(128)

The code that's failing is in "_convert_ref", which is new in Python 2.5.
That function wasn't present in 2.4. I think the code is trying to
handle single quotes inside of double quotes, or something like that.

To replicate, run

http://www.bankofamerica.com
or
http://www.gm.com

through BeautifulSoup.

Something about this code doesn't like big companies. Web sites of smaller
companies are going through OK.

Also reported as a bug:

[ 1651995 ] sgmllib _convert_ref UnicodeDecodeError exception, new in 2.5


John Nagle
 
M

Mizipzor

I'm running a website page through BeautifulSoup. It parses OK
with Python 2.4, but Python 2.5 fails with an exception:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "./sitetruth/InfoSitePage.py", line 268, in httpfetch
self.pagetree = BeautifulSoup.BeautifulSoup(sitetext) # parse into tree form
File "./sitetruth/BeautifulSoup.py", line 1326, in __init__
BeautifulStoneSoup.__init__(self, *args, **kwargs)
File "./sitetruth/BeautifulSoup.py", line 973, in __init__
self._feed()
File "./sitetruth/BeautifulSoup.py", line 998, in _feed
SGMLParser.feed(self, markup or "")
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/sgmllib.py", line 99, in feed
self.goahead(0)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/sgmllib.py", line 133, in goahead
k = self.parse_starttag(i)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/sgmllib.py", line 291, in parse_starttag
self.finish_starttag(tag, attrs)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/sgmllib.py", line 340, in finish_starttag
self.handle_starttag(tag, method, attrs)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/sgmllib.py", line 376, in handle_starttag
method(attrs)
File "./sitetruth/BeautifulSoup.py", line 1416, in start_meta
self._feed(self.declaredHTMLEncoding)
File "./sitetruth/BeautifulSoup.py", line 998, in _feed
SGMLParser.feed(self, markup or "")
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/sgmllib.py", line 99, in feed
self.goahead(0)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/sgmllib.py", line 133, in goahead
k = self.parse_starttag(i)
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/sgmllib.py", line 285, in parse_starttag
self._convert_ref, attrvalue)
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xa7 in position 0: ordinal
not in range(128)

The code that's failing is in "_convert_ref", which is new in Python 2.5.
That function wasn't present in 2.4. I think the code is trying to
handle single quotes inside of double quotes, or something like that.

To replicate, run

http://www.bankofamerica.com
or
http://www.gm.com

through BeautifulSoup.

Something about this code doesn't like big companies. Web sites of smaller
companies are going through OK.

Also reported as a bug:

[ 1651995 ] sgmllib _convert_ref UnicodeDecodeError exception, new in 2.5

John Nagle

I think this post got rather missplaced, hehe.
 
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Kirk Sluder

"Mizipzor said:
Hehe, it has all the features I knew existed in a newsreader, except
this "subscribe to topic" thing Im looking for.

If you have My Groups enabled, you can highlight a topic as a
favorite. When reading a thread, click on the star near the upper
left corner of the screen under the subject header. This will add
that subject to your favorites. Then to see your favorite topics,
click "favorites" at the top of the page, toward the right-hand side.

In an email client, you can set a filter that dumps messages from a
list that don't match specific keywords into the trash or an archive
folder.
 

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