Video: Professor of Physics Phd at Cal Tech says: 911 Inside Job

P

Peter Webb

Why do you all have to avoid the topic and rather go on a character
assassination which is totally abhorent to scientific method?

Because

*you are a complete flake,
*there is nothing scientific about the 9/11 conspiracy theories,
*this is off-topic, and
* nobody could be bothered to discuss it with you, and we hope that if we
say "**** off, idiot" you actually will.

**** off, idiot.
 
G

gDog

here's a question that came-up recently,
in battling with the controlled-demo advocates
at teh Promenade:

how is it that the metal was still molten,
after weeks?

snip...snip...snip...

I say it's time to bring in the Mythbusters!! *That* will put and end
to all of this.
--greg
 
G

Gordon

Isn't this the guy who has more conspiracy theories than Carter has pills?

Whitewater, Vince Foster, moon landing hoax one week - we found a UFO on the moon the
next, Oklahoma City bombing, a new conspiracy every day ad nauseum?
Maybe the thread title is wrong. Should it perhaps read, "Video
Professor took a physic then spewed out some really stinky
stuff."
 
M

Mitchell Jones

War Office said:
On Apr 24, 6:13 pm, (e-mail address removed) wrote:
[snip]
I love how folks like you ask for intellectual honesty when every
effort is made to ignore evidence that doesn't agree with your
presupposed findings.

Which evidence would that be?

***{I'm not a fan of the Bush administration, and would not put it past
them to carry out an event such as 911, to create an excuse to jettison
the Constitution and Bill of Rights. What is certain in any case is
that, in fact, the Bush administration has used the events of 911 as an
excuse to toss out the Constitution and Bill of Rights. There are,
however, at least three possible scenarios regarding 911 itself:

(1) The plane crashes were planned and executed by terrorists. The
towers fell because of the impacts. Building 7 fell because of the
impact of debris from the north tower.

(2) The plane crashes were planned and executed by the Bush
administration. The towers fell because of the impacts. Building 7 fell
because of the impact of debris from the north tower.

(3) The plane crashes were planned and executed by the Bush
administration. The towers fell because of the impacts, plus the effects
of pre-planted demolition charges. Building 7 fell because of the impact
of debris from the north tower, plus the effects of pre-planted
explosive charges.

I analyzed (3), above, in great detail a month or so back, in a
sci.physics thread entitled "The amazing denial of what "conspiracy
kooks" really means...." If you are really interested in a reasoned
response to those arguments, you can probably still find that thread on
Google.

My conclusion at the time was that possibility (3), above, fails because
pre-planted explosives are not needed to explain why the towers fell, or
why building 7 fell. Possibilities (1) and (2), therefore, are all that
remains.

This post is for informational purposes only, and is not to be taken as
an indication that I am interesting in slogging my way through all this
stuff again. Once is more than enough, and so I am killfiling this
thread after making this post.

--Mitchell Jones}***

*****************************************************************
If I seem to be ignoring you, consider the possibility
that you are in my killfile. --MJ
 
M

Michael A. Terrell

Mitchell said:
If I seem to be ignoring you, consider the possibility
that you are in my killfile. --MJ


Ditto.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
M

Major Quaternion Dirt Quantum

Jones' report seems to support this idea, that
there was molten metal under the pile, some where.

there is another thing, documented with multiple photos,
that seems to be related, although
they weren't *still* molten.
I say it's time to bring in the Mythbusters!! *That* will put and end
to all of this.

thus:
Kepler made the first astronomical use
of a rough calculus, to determine his orbital constraints;
Newton algebraized them into another formula
with different parameters,
probably using Hooke's idea, or stealing it.

thus quoth:
Not until Kepler used the observations of Tycho Brahe was it
discovered that orbits were elliptical, confirmed by Isaac Newton.

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/plates/figs/plate01.html

thus:
why do Dick, Borat, Osama, Harry P., Rumsfeld and Tony B. want us
to underwrite the 3rd British Invasion of Sudan,
so badly?...
anyway, Bertrand Russel published a jeremyad in the Bulletin
of the Atomic Scientists, while the USA was the only thermonukey
power,
that we should bomb the SU into the Stone Age;
that's your British "pacifist," whether before or after he went nuts
because of Godel's proof.

thus:
if you can't prove that all Fermat numbers are pairwise coprime,
again!

Darfur 'Mini-Summit'
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/1998/rice_2546.html

thus:
uh yeah; Borat wants you in Sudan,
why, Baby?... Harry Potter wants you in Iran --
yeah, Baby; shag'US with a spoon?

--DARFURIA CONSISTS OF ARABs & nonARABs; NEWS-ITEM:
we are marching to Darfuria, Darfuria, Darfuria!
Harry Potter IIX, ?Ordeal @ Oxford//Sudan ^ Aircraft Carrier!
http://larouchepub.com/other/2007/3410caymans_hedges.html
ALgoreTHEmovieFORpresident.COM:
http://larouchepub.com/eirtoc/site_packages/2007/al_gore.html
 
M

Major Quaternion Dirt Quantum

the towers collapsed into a subway
that most of the employees probably used to get to work,
with all sorts of ancilliary services (parking,
paintball facilities etc.) -- it was huge. so,
shouldn't there have been some secondary effects,
such as structural damage to bldg. 7,
that also set it on fire?

the amount of energy that's required
to perform a "controlled" demolition is some
orders of magnitude (NB: a hundred orders
of tude is a googoltude) less than what is
in a fully-fueled 757 -- get over it!

thus:
Jones' report seems to support this idea, that
there was molten metal under the pile, some where.

there is another thing, documented with multiple photos
in his report, that seems to be related, although
they weren't *still* molten.

thus:
if you can't prove that all Fermat numbers are pairwise coprime,
again!

Darfur 'Mini-Summit'
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/1998/rice_2546.html

thus:
uh yeah; Borat wants you in Sudan,
why, Baby?... Harry Potter wants you in Iran --
yeah, Baby; shag'US with a spoon?

--DARFURIA CONSISTS OF ARABs & nonARABs; NEWS-ITEM:
we are marching to Darfuria, Darfuria, Darfuria!
Harry Potter IIX, ?Ordeal @ Oxford//Sudan ^ Aircraft Carrier!
http://larouchepub.com/other/2007/3410caymans_hedges.html
ALgoreTHEmovieFORpresident.COM:
http://larouchepub.com/eirtoc/site_packages/2007/al_gore.html
 
Z

zzbunker

Cal Tech is the ELITE of ELITE in physics.

If Feynman were alive, he would point his finger straight at the 911
criminal operators, the yank bastards themselves .......

If Feynmann alive were he would be wrighting review crap
for PBS.. Since it's quite obvious
to even the most causal observer that
the only thing he had the foggiet clue
concerning engineering is Cal-Tech Shleppers
and nano-ons.
 
M

Midex

here's a question that came-up recently,
in battling with the controlled-demo advocates
at teh Promenade:

how is it that the metal was still molten,
after weeks?

it seems taht an additional hypothesis is required,
to explain that. because I doubt that
there was sufficient nukular material
"left-over" from a hypothetical suitcase-device.

there are similar question,
from what I recall of Jones' report
(I just stopped at the first thing
that seemed funny, today .-)

publications:http://www.physics.uiowa.edu/~cgrabbe/writing/
research.html


thus:
this was basically assuming that
floor 50 of a 100-floor building started the collapse?...
interesting analysis; I hope to look at it, again, later.

have you seen the old analysis by the MIT Head Welder,
that I only saw a couple of weeks ago?


http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/plates/figs/plate01.html

thus:
"Global Warning,"
an *anonymous* article in an old issue of *National Review*,
the so-called conservative mag of the grotesque Establishment
creature,
William Buckley, was a sort of benignly-spun expose
of the Mont Pelerin Society, the vehicle of British imperialist "free
trade,"
free beer & free dumb, whose many "rightwing" affiliate foundations
are always in the news. the universally-newspaper-lauded-when-
he-died founding president, Mitlon Friedman,
used Sir Henry of Kiss.Ass. to conduct their first experiment
in Chile, with the help of Augusto Pinochet & Dick Nixon.

(the fact that it was an awful failure, with the privatization
of Chile's social security, was only recently mention, but
only before Uncly Milty died.)

I realized, much later, since it was anonymous, that
it was probably taken from The Holy Spook Economist, but
I haven't checked that hypothesis.

yes, "Warning" was meant to evoke "warming," although
nowhere mentioned in the article, as I recall; can you say,
"emmissions trading schemes," Boys and Girl?...
can you say, "hedge funds on out-of-the-way desert islands?..."
Just Desserts Island?

thus:
why do Dick, Borat, Osama, Harry P., Rumsfeld and Tony B. want us
to underwrite the 3rd British Invasion of Sudan,
so badly?

anyway, Bertrand Russel published a jeremyad in the Bulletin
of the Atomic Scientists, while the USA was the only thermonukey
power,
that we should bomb them into the Stone Age;
that's your British "pacifist," whether before or after he went nuts
because of Godel's proof.

thus:
if you can't prove that all Fermat numbers are pairwise coprime,
again!

Darfur 'Mini-Summit'http://www.larouchepub.com/other/1998/rice_2546.html

thus:
uh yeah; Borat wants you in Sudan,
why, Baby?... Harry Potter wants you in Iran --
yeah, Baby; shag'US with a spoon?

--DARFURIA CONSISTS OF ARABs & nonARABs; NEWS-ITEM:
we are marching to Darfuria, Darfuria, Darfuria!
Harry Potter IIX, ?Ordeal @ Oxford//Sudan ^ Aircraft Carrier!http://larouchepub.com/other/2007/3410caymans_hedges.html
ALgoreTHEmovieFORpresident.COM:http://larouchepub.com/eirtoc/site_packages/2007/al_gore.html

I suppose you never seen this footage of WTC7 before have you? Its
100% evidence that WTC7 was controlled demolition:
 
M

Major Quaternion Dirt Quantum

can you puhlease reply to my questions?

nothing is ever 100%, if only because of Heisenberg --
that dirty little physicist!
I suppose you never seen this footage of WTC7 before have you? Its
100% evidence that WTC7 was controlled demolition:

thus:
maybe, "pulled" is just a firefighteresque synonym
for gravity doing its thing -- still not subsumed
in the Standard Model of physicists, so, There. y'know,
sort of like, how it is, pilots refer to going "out" and "in,"
instead of up & down.

Zogby clientlist, cool; what great organizations
I will assume them to be -- if any one else wants
to look at it & report back.... lies, polls, statistics;
how they, for instance, leveraged the Governeurateur,
during the Recall, by the art of dysmissing "less likely voters"
that they had interviewed, because they were a)
Democrats, and b)
were removed by some other signal processing techniques;
what it is?... thank gawd for Zogby et al ad vomitorium;
with over 40% electronic voting,
how *else* will you know?

I know, you were not suggesting that
(--with the rather obvious burning on the other side,
that was away from most of your videos, and after
teh catastrophic collapse and/or demolition
of both, huge towers into the gigantic subway--)
the commanding officers should have kept them
inside the evacuated building, til it fell.

thus:
if you can't prove that all Fermat numbers are pairwise coprime,
again!

Darfur 'Mini-Summit'
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/1998/rice_2546.html

thus:
uh yeah; Borat wants you in Sudan,
why, Baby?... Harry Potter wants you in Iran --
yeah, Baby; shag'US with a spoon?

--DARFURIA CONSISTS OF ARABs & nonARABs; NEWS-ITEM:
we are marching to Darfuria, Darfuria, Darfuria!
Harry Potter IIX, ?Ordeal @ Oxford//Sudan ^ Aircraft Carrier!
http://larouchepub.com/other/2007/3410caymans_hedges.html
ALgoreTHEmovieFORpresident.COM:
http://larouchepub.com/eirtoc/site_packages/2007/al_gore.html
 
S

schoenfeld.one

Why can't any of you just discuss the fact that free-fall collapse of
this building contradicts the laws of physics?

Why do you assume he's even capable of doing so? He's just a crackpot,
but he's in the unfortunate majority.
Why do you all have to avoid the topic and rather go on a character
assassination which is totally abhorent to scientific method?

That is the new "scientific method".
 
J

Jim

War Office said:
On Apr 24, 6:13 pm, (e-mail address removed) wrote:
[snip]
I love how folks like you ask for intellectual honesty when every
effort is made to ignore evidence that doesn't agree with your
presupposed findings.
Which evidence would that be?

***{I'm not a fan of the Bush administration, and would not put it past
them to carry out an event such as 911, to create an excuse to jettison
the Constitution and Bill of Rights. What is certain in any case is
that, in fact, the Bush administration has used the events of 911 as an
excuse to toss out the Constitution and Bill of Rights. There are,
however, at least three possible scenarios regarding 911 itself:

(1) The plane crashes were planned and executed by terrorists. The
towers fell because of the impacts. Building 7 fell because of the
impact of debris from the north tower.

(2) The plane crashes were planned and executed by the Bush
administration. The towers fell because of the impacts. Building 7 fell
because of the impact of debris from the north tower.

(3) The plane crashes were planned and executed by the Bush
administration. The towers fell because of the impacts, plus the effects
of pre-planted demolition charges. Building 7 fell because of the impact
of debris from the north tower, plus the effects of pre-planted
explosive charges.

I analyzed (3), above, in great detail a month or so back, in a
sci.physics thread entitled "The amazing denial of what "conspiracy
kooks" really means...." If you are really interested in a reasoned
response to those arguments, you can probably still find that thread on
Google.

My conclusion at the time was that possibility (3), above, fails because
pre-planted explosives are not needed to explain why the towers fell, or
why building 7 fell. Possibilities (1) and (2), therefore, are all that
remains.

This post is for informational purposes only, and is not to be taken as
an indication that I am interesting in slogging my way through all this
stuff again. Once is more than enough, and so I am killfiling this
thread after making this post.

--Mitchell Jones}***

*****************************************************************
If I seem to be ignoring you, consider the possibility
that you are in my killfile. --MJ

What has all this got to do with Python?
 

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