Best (Windows) Ruby editor

L

Luke Renn

* Christian Neukirchen said:
The very reasons I like using emacs.

I agree. Question though, what have you been using for your view
work? I've been using nxml-mode but the "invalid" at the bottom bugs
me. It should be possible to use mmm-mode and use nxml-mode for the
xhtml stuff, then drop into ruby mode for anything between <% %>. I
haven't had the courage to try this out yet though.
 
L

Lothar Scholz

Hello Christian,



CN> And how can Smalltalk tell?

They can't. But method arguments have names there, so the name
of a method is longer and not so overloaded.

The refactoring browser also adds methods under the old name into the
image that simply raise an inspector window and cry for help if
something is going wrong after the refactoring.

And you normally get a lot of warnings from the refactoring browser
with locations where you must look manually to decide if it should
rename a method or not. It's far from being as automated as in Java
IDE's. Its just that many people only read about it but never tried
it.

And remember that Smalltalk does not have all the manipulation you can
do with file loading and class/method setups. This reduces the
complexity of a refactoring browser by one magnitude.
 
G

gabriele renzi

Christian Neukirchen ha scritto:
And how can Smalltalk tell?

since it is image based and it actually has all the code running all the
time, I think. See the "non image script based" thing in Lothar's
previous message :)
 
M

meruby

IMHO, kdevelop is a hidden gems for ruby IDE. I think it is not that
known because it is only available under linux, but IMHO, it is best
IDE if you use linux, It looks and feels great since it is based on QT
and is very responsive overall. I highly recommend it.
 
V

vruz

more Ruby specific IDE (like FreeRIDE?). (I may eventually learn C and
Ruby support in KDevelop 3.2.0 is probably at least good as Eclipse RDT,
although KDevelop doesn't run on Windows. I would love to hear the opinion
of someone who has tried both too.

Richard, what are the chances we can get Kdevelop running on Win32
when QT is finally freed for that platform ?
Will it be a tough port to have ?

cheers,
vruz
 
I

info

Peter said:
What is in your opinion the best (Windows) Ruby editor out there?
I'm searching for an editor with very good syntax highlighting
...
Any suggestions?

Take a look at the Zeus programmer's editor:

http://www.zeusedit.com/lookmain.html

Zeus comes with Ruby syntax highlighting pre-defined. Also after
downloading the following patch:

http://www.zeusedit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109

Zeus will do Ruby code folding.

NOTE: Zeus is shareware and has a 60 days trial period.

Jussi Jumppanen
http://www.zeusedit.com
 
R

Richard Dale

vruz said:
Richard, what are the chances we can get Kdevelop running on Win32
when QT is finally freed for that platform ?
Will it be a tough port to have ?
Probably not too difficult, but it is a bit of a sore point with some KDE
developers. Have a look at this announcement about some progress with a
KDELibs/Win32 port, and the ensuing heated discussion:

http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/view/608

-- Richard
 
K

Kirk Haines

Richard said:
Ruby support in KDevelop 3.2.0 is probably at least good as Eclipse RDT,
although KDevelop doesn't run on Windows. I would love to hear the opinion
of someone who has tried both too.

I have used Eclipse with RDT for quite a while, but a couple months ago I
started switching to KDevelop, in large part because KDevelop gives me
(almost) everything I like about Eclipse in a faster, less bulky package.

If my development box were a cutting edge, super fast machine with a lot of
excess RAM, I probably wouldn't have as much incentive to use KDevelop, but
given that it's not any of those things, I've so far not found a lot to
complain about with KDevelop. In fact, if I could hook it to my CVS
repository so that I could be extra lazy and do commits from within the
editor, and if I could have a tree view of my project areas (and maybe I
can and just need to learn the app better), I'd really have nothing to
complain about.

Eclipse + RTD is good, but KDevelop, at least for Linux, has the potential
to be great.


Kirk Haines
 
R

Richard Dale

Kirk said:
I have used Eclipse with RDT for quite a while, but a couple months ago I
started switching to KDevelop, in large part because KDevelop gives me
(almost) everything I like about Eclipse in a faster, less bulky package.

If my development box were a cutting edge, super fast machine with a lot
of excess RAM, I probably wouldn't have as much incentive to use KDevelop,
but given that it's not any of those things, I've so far not found a lot
to
complain about with KDevelop. In fact, if I could hook it to my CVS
repository so that I could be extra lazy and do commits from within the
editor, and if I could have a tree view of my project areas (and maybe I
can and just need to learn the app better), I'd really have nothing to
complain about.
KDevelop certainly has built in CVS support, so you can do what you
describe. And it has a what I would call a tree view of the project areas
under the 'File Tree' tab.
Eclipse + RTD is good, but KDevelop, at least for Linux, has the potential
to be great.
That's certainly encouraging. It would be very hard to catch up with Eclipse
for java support, but for other languages like ruby and C++ I think we can
do at least as well as Eclipse.

KDevelop is Free Software with a low barrier to entry. If it has something
missing, such as a Rails project template or whatever, please feel free to
join in. Mail me for help, and/or subscribe to the
(e-mail address removed) mailing list..

There is a very annoying bug where the icons for the debugger step options
don't installed properly in the 3.2.0 release. I've fixed that in the cvs,
in both the HEAD and KDE_3_4_RELEASE branches. Because nobody has
complained, I was wondering if anyone was actually using it for ruby
development.

-- Richard
 
K

Kirk Haines

Richard said:
KDevelop certainly has built in CVS support, so you can do what you
describe. And it has a what I would call a tree view of the project areas
under the 'File Tree' tab.

See, there you go. I just need to look around a little bit more. :)
KDevelop is Free Software with a low barrier to entry. If it has something
missing, such as a Rails project template or whatever, please feel free to
join in. Mail me for help, and/or subscribe to the
(e-mail address removed) mailing list..

Hmmm. Contacting you offlist....
There is a very annoying bug where the icons for the debugger step options
don't installed properly in the 3.2.0 release. I've fixed that in the cvs,
in both the HEAD and KDE_3_4_RELEASE branches. Because nobody has
complained, I was wondering if anyone was actually using it for ruby
development.

I have never looked at the debugger, but I'll look it over and let you know
what I run into. IOWA apps run as separate processes from the web server,
so I should be able to use the debugger to debug them directly. If so,
that would be QUITE handy.


Kirk Haines
 
M

Martin Ankerl

I have used Eclipse with RDT for quite a while, but a couple months ago I
started switching to KDevelop, in large part because KDevelop gives me
(almost) everything I like about Eclipse in a faster, less bulky package.

You might want to give SWT/Fox a try. This makes eclipse a lot faster:
http://swtfox.sourceforge.net/

It is still a bit buggy, but the performance increase is very noticable.

martinus
 
T

tony summerfelt

I'm just finishing up a Ruby-mode for the Epsilon editor (
www.lugaru.com ). Epsilon is like Emacs (on steroids?), but its macro
language is C-like, not Lisp-like. I've been using it for nearly
twenty years. (Given its age, you can guess it's not open source, but

ouch...has it always been priced like that?

i noticed on the web page screenshots are mentioned, but i clicked
around half a dozen times or so and didn't run into any. maybe a
specific screenshots link?

i mention this because i've registered programs based on their
screenshots alone. my reasoning went along the lines of: if i like
look of the program enough, i'd be more likely to have it open in
front of me using it. hasn't steered me wrong so far...
http://home.cogeco.ca/~tsummerfelt1
telnet://ventedspleen.dyndns.org
 

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