CSS Design why is it so hard?

Discussion in 'HTML' started by Port 119, Apr 15, 2007.

  1. Port 119

    Port 119 Guest

    Why is it so hard to do full web sites with nice tabbed menus, centred
    layouts of either 2 or 3 column types without etc?

    It seesm that most web sites should go css because of the ease of having
    two stylesheets - one for printing and one for the screen.

    I', even steering away from three column layouts for most sites as this
    creates too much clutter.

    But cannot figure out why the Microsoft Tools ( Front Page 2003 and
    SharePoitn Designer ) just don't behave all the time well ( in a wysiwyg
    way) with good css designed sites?

    I am the only one finding this is the case?

    Smartbiz Australia
    Port 119, Apr 15, 2007
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    Neredbojias Guest

    The answer is simple and obvious. Microsoft makes the worst software in
    the world. If you are just discovering this, you are in for some good fun
    when you tackle many programmatic-ish endeavors having a bit more
    complexity in the future.
    Neredbojias, Apr 15, 2007
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    Chaddy2222 Guest

    I agree that when it comes to web creation software, yes MS do a a bad
    job of it (or have in the past.
    MS's Expression Web or whatever it's called is said to be better then
    Dreamwever, although I have never thaught much of that product eather.
    It's too complex for it's own good.
    I try and use Free and Open Source software where I can now-a-days.
    Chaddy2222, Apr 15, 2007
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    Neredbojias Guest

    Uh huh. I'll elaborate at bottom.
    Yes, yes.

    Perhaps I misspoke slightly. In general (wih exceptions), it isn't
    Microsoft software per se that's really the culprit; it's Microsoft
    procedures and policies and attitude which definitively sinks them. I
    suspect some of their employees actually could make a good piece of
    software were they guided in the right direction (-or not "guided" in the
    wrong.) The momentum of the company as it is now is neither conducive to
    fine, dependable programmics nor to apps which end-users can truly rely on
    in confidence. Things were better 20 years ago! Maybe the stuff wasn't as
    esoteric as it is now, but it could be fixed or replaced without totally
    destroying or rendering impotent what a least temporarily did function.
    Everyday I become more and more disillusioned with this crap because that
    is what it's turning into - crap! Active-X was an early example of the
    trend, and I certainly do not see the end in sight. I know that belaboring
    the issue is futile, but sometimes I just have to rant for release.
    Neredbojias, Apr 16, 2007
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    Lipstikk Guest

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Port 119" <>
    Newsgroups: alt.html
    Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 4:18 AM
    Subject: CSS Design why is it so hard?

    Might be because the web has a top-down logic. It seems that this requires
    a different way of thinking to most people. Most people (well, in the wild
    west that is)
    are thinking in a horizontal left-to-right fashion. Tables are generally
    made with a
    left-to-right logic, making them easy to visualize in your head and also
    easy for you to
    implement. The issue is that tables are not for layout, they are used for
    of certain closely related information.

    The notion of that it is 'hard' to accomplish a desired layout may come from
    a lack
    of understanding about how the web is designed to work. It wasn't
    the way you first imagined it and now it feels like you have to learn it all
    over again,
    and that will make your moral drop.
    This is only one benefit of using css. You use css to seperate the structure
    of your
    content (the html-part) from the presentation of your content. Another,
    bigger, benefit is that you can use just one stylesheet to control the
    of many webpages.
    Suggestion; search the internet for "css multicolumn layout". I'm sure
    find a lot of templates you could use.
    Far from it...
    Lipstikk, Apr 17, 2007
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